On Tue, Feb 12, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Pete Matos wrote:
> Sam,
>     okay now we are getting somewhere, you bring up a valid point here. I
> have been in that situation before with a runaway servo and buddy it is no
> fun. I can see what you mean about getting the drive depowered in the event
> of a runaway. 

Yep, that is what the hard limit switches are for.

> I guess I was more thinking about a limit trip during a
> program run accidentally when I screwed up the program placement or
> overestimated the size of my travels ( I NEVER DO THAT REALLY!! LOL)

That is what the soft limits are for.  You set the soft limits a bit inside the
hard limits, and once homed EMC will refuse to execute a move that
would exceed them.  It also refuses to let you jog past them.  As a result,
you should never be able to hit the hard limits (no matter how bad a 
programmer you are ;-)  unless there is some kind of serious malfunction
like encoder failure or drive runaway.

Note that you must be homed for soft limits to work right, and if your
hard limits kill power, you must have a separate home switch that is
inside the hard limits (and probably just inside the soft limits) for
homing.  All pro-class machines have separate home and limit
switches.  Using a limit as home is an acceptable hack for a smaller
machine, but prevents you from having the truly safe "power kill"
hard limits.

> yeah I can see your point and I wonder if there is a happy medium somehow
> with a limit setup tied to the estop circuit and still being able to power
> up and jog off the damn switch so I can get back to work without major
> machine disassembly... 

Soft limits prevent nuisance trips.  Hard limits save expensive smoke
when something breaks, but since something DID break, you have some
real fixing to do before you can get on with your work.  Getting the 
machine off the limit is a part of that fixing, but finding and fixing the
initial failure will be most of the work.  Should ideally be a very rare
case.

John Kasunich

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