On Sunday 31 March 2013 18:15:36 Steve Blackmore did opine:

> On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 03:44:01 -0400, you wrote:
> >> I've seen some vertical milling setups that have a touch block for
> >> automatically setting the tool length. I assume the surface of the
> >> block is insulated from the machine and has a wire to a controller
> >> input to sense when it's grounded by the tool.
> >
> >Actually, I use a touch block to zero mine for both x & z, z first,
> >then x. It sets on the ways, and is backed left up against the
> >workpiece mounted in the chuck, so it establishes the Z zero by using
> >an offset such that I write code that runs in the -Z range, very
> >repeatable, a thou or so.  The x is somewhat less accurate because I
> >need to rig a single point rest where it sits on the flat back rail of
> >the bed now, with so much area sitting on the bed that I can wipe the
> >vactra off & move the x home 1 to 3 thou.  A single point rear contact
> >should help with that.  Oh, and be sure to blow the swarf off the
> >cutter tip. Don't ask how I know. :)
> 
> Gregg, Gene
> 
> I have used automatic tool touch off devices, and to be honest I find it
> easier and quicker to manually set my tools. Particularly so on the
> lathe. It needs only be done occasionally if you use quick change tool
> holders. I have 10 holders, 8 of those have tools permanently installed
> and the other two are for the odds and sods I "may" need to use.
> 
> I also have an auto changer but never managed to get that to work under
> Linux.
> 
> Tool 1 is my reference tool, a standard right hand tool with a CNMG type
> insert. It's offsets are 0,0 - all other tools have offsets referenced
> to that one in the tool table. The offsets only change if you replace an
> insert.
> 
> An essential item is missing in LinuxCNC tool tables, that being wear
> offsets entry.
> 
> Editing main entries is a PITA and unless you remember what they were
> originally you have to go through the process of re-referencing the tool
> when you eventually replace the insert rather than just zeroing the wear
> offset!!
> 
> The end of the work is always Z0 - all cuts are made in the -Z range.
> The centre of the work (C/L of X axis) is X0. Easy and quick to define
> both, take a facing cut off the end of the work, call that Z0. Take a
> cut along the work, then measure the diameter. Ender that as current X
> position (in diameter mode) and your done. You have both X and Z zero's
> - takes much less time to do than type :)

I have tried that too, but was never able to make it work, seems my offset 
that I was entering by reading the diameter, was always being taken as a 
radius correction.  Switch to radius mode, then have to run the mic reading 
thru the calculator.  Its a PIMA Steve, offsets entered should be taken as 
diameter, not radius.  Totally counter-intuitive to me.

Actually, ISTR reading trat in the docs, yonks ago, but it needs to be in 
36 bold point type in the offset discussion.

 
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