On Monday 15 April 2013 15:09:03 jeremy youngs did opine:

> yeah im kinda fond of the old man myself :)

Chuckle, next thing I know I'd better stock up on suds in case you all come 
to visit. ;-)
 
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 2:42 PM, sam sokolik <sa...@empirescreen.com> 
wrote:
> > Thanks  :)
> > 
> > love you
> > sam
> > 
> > On 4/15/2013 1:28 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Monday 15 April 2013 13:22:31 Viesturs Lؤپcis did opine:
> > >> 2013/4/15 andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com>
> > >> 
> > >>> On 15 April 2013 11:00, Gregg Eshelman <g_ala...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>>> The crossover counters any offset push at one end of the gantry
> > >>>> with an
> > >>> 
> > >>> equal pull in the same direction at the opposite end. The theory
> > >>> page shows how it works.
> > >>> 
> > >>> I have stared at the diagrams for long enough now that I have
> > >>> changed my mind several times. I might have to build one to see.
> > >>> 
> > >>>> Does LinuxCNC have H-bot support? CoreXY should drive
> > >>>> identically.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Not built-in, but:
> > >>> 
> > >>> http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/38-general-linuxcn
> > >>> c-qu estions/26302-cnc-avec-systeme-h-bot-ou-corexy
> > >> 
> > >> Hmm, it is not the first time I see links to that Russian forum and
> > >> with every time I get stronger and stronger impression that those
> > >> LinuxCNC users that hang out there is a completely separate
> > >> community...
> > >> 
> > >> Anyway, I just cannot figure out, how to set up homing routine to
> > >> home such a machine to some switches.
> > > 
> > > Use the sign of the HOME_SEARCH_VELOCITY to control which switch its
> > > looking for.  Then HOME_OFFSET with a sign can set home to any
> > > position. Then in case the home switches are off in a corner
> > > someplace and you have to jog the machine to a suitable starting
> > > position before invoking the homing operation, run it to where the
> > > first switch is available quickly, and use the HOME_SEQUENCE number
> > > to put all the home ops in the proper order.
> > > 
> > > On my lathe, a grep of the .ini for HOME returns this:
> > > In [TRAJ]
> > > HOME_ALL      = 1 (one home all button in axis)
> > > 
> > > In x [AXIS_0]
> > > HOME = 1.250  (where it parks it when done)
> > > HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS = YES
> > > HOME_USE_INDEX = NO  (if servo's, could be useful)
> > > HOME_OFFSET = 0.01000000 (where it marks it as 0.0 from where its
> > > at) HOME_SEARCH_VEL = -0.08 (in machine units, IPS IOW)
> > > HOME_LATCH_VEL = -.008
> > > HOME_FINAL_VEL = -.1
> > > HOME_IS_SHARED        = 1 (one logic signal is input for all homes)
> > > HOME_SEQUENCE = 1 (second one to be done)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > In z [AXIS_2]
> > > HOME = 4.250  (where it marks it as being when finished)
> > > HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS = YES
> > > HOME_USE_INDEX = NO
> > > HOME_OFFSET = 4.090 ( distance in this case from left face of gauge
> > > to
> > 
> > face
> > 
> > > of pcb on right face of gauge)
> > > HOME_SEARCH_VEL = -0.08
> > > HOME_LATCH_VEL        = -0.015
> > > HOME_FINAL_VEL = 0.25
> > > HOME_IS_SHARED = 1
> > > HOME_SEQUENCE = 0 (first to home)
> > > 
> > > I place a gauge I made on the ways, backed up against the work piece
> > > as chucked, place a cleaned cutting tool next to the pcb copper
> > > that is the
> > 
> > Z
> > 
> > > detector on the gauge, and hit the HOME_ALL button,  It searches z
> > > for contact, sets the home offset such that 0.0z is shaving the
> > > rust off the chuck jaws, or if work is chucked, touching the face
> > > of the work.  Then
> > 
> > it
> > 
> > > backs away a wee bit and searches inward to find the contact for the
> > > x home, finds that piece of pcb, sets home to pretty close to the
> > > center of the work (I'm still fine tuning that) then parks the tool
> > > back out of the way till its needed.
> > > 
> > > yerp, buzz, yerp, yerp, buzz, yerp, done in about 7 seconds.
> > > 
> > > If the ways and base of my tool are lox clean, repeatable to under
> > > .001". That however is a major problem for x as it tilts the gauge
> > > just for a
> > 
> > good
> > 
> > > coat of vactra on the ways.  I need to make the rear, huge flat area
> > 
> > into a
> > 
> > > single point contact with the back in order to penetrate the oil
> > > film and possibly leave a little room for dust, between it and the
> > > flat back way
> > 
> > on
> > 
> > > that toy lathe.
> > > 
> > > The man page on homing could be clearer, but careful rereads will
> > > point
> > 
> > the
> > 
> > > way as there are many, many variations.  And there are N! ways to
> > > screw
> > 
> > it
> > 
> > > up.  :)
> > > 
> > > The only fly in this ointment is that it all goes totally,
> > > absolutely to hell if you have applied /any/ touch offs, and in my
> > > case I would call
> > 
> > not
> > 
> > > canceling the touch off in effect as the first thing the homing
> > > operation does a bug.  Ditto for trying to use position.txt, as
> > > that also contaminates the zero's this sets.
> > > 
> > > IMO its a BUG, and for me a BIG BUG, requiring that I first stop
> > 
> > linuxcnc,
> > 
> > > nuke the position.txt AND the linuxcnc.vars files before restarting
> > > linuxcnc, so that it truly starts from scratch when homing.
> > > 
> > > Touching the HOME button should first NUKE any touch off offsets in
> > 
> > effect
> > 
> > > at the time for the axis being homed.
> > > 
> > > It does not, so home is then relative to the &^$#@ offset.  I have
> > > broken tools and wrecked nearly finished parts because of this,
> > > several times.
> > > 
> > > Is there a valid reason for the current, save the offsets behavior?
> > > 
> > > Cheers, Gene
> > 
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