On Friday 26 April 2013 20:17:22 dave did opine:

> On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 14:48 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 26 April 2013 14:44:38 andy pugh did opine:
> > > On 26 April 2013 16:42,  <kqt4a...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > You have saved me a lot of money, headaches and possible
> > > > alcoholism I need to rethink my hobbies to fit my space, maybe a
> > > > nice quilting frame
> > > 
> > > The thing is, that a lot of these machines look the same, but are
> > > built to different standards.
> > > The forerunner of most of the cheap lathes was the Emco Compact 10:
> > > http://www.lathes.co.uk/emco/page7.html
> > > My cheap Indian knock-off of the cheap Chinese knock-offs of the
> > > original German design is not very nice at all, but it could have
> > > been OK if it had been built by someone who had ever seen a lathe
> > > before.
> > > 
> > > I think that there are some people on this list who have links with
> > > Smithy and are keeping quiet to retain impartiality.
> > > 
> > > The trick is probably to make sure you have a look at the machine in
> > > the metal, and twiddle the knobs, before comitting.
> > 
> > Which explains why I have not yet purchased the GO704 from Grizzly, I
> > have yet to stop by the showroom in Muncy PA and found one actually
> > on display. The dog & pony show says we can't keep one long enough to
> > set up up out here.  Something tells me there is a reason they won't
> > let us spin the wheels.
> > 
> > That thing is a BF20 or a BF30? I'm confused.
> > 
> > Cheers, Gene
> 
> Hi all,
> My first machine was a Griz. I sold it to my BIL and went to an auction
> and bought a real mill. He got for about what I paid for it but it came
> with lots of tooling I'd acquired. OTOH, my cinci cost less than the
> Griz and there is simply no comparison in quality.
> The cinci came with ballscrews and X and Y servo motors. Just add $$$
> for a control plus emc (that in itself dates it) and Voila!
> 
> Dave
> 
True Dave, but even my 8" thick garage floor is not up to holding up some 
of the Cinci's I've seen.  Sitting on this WV yellow clay, even a 1000 lb 
machine will slowly sink. 
> 
> 
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Cheers, Gene
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