On Saturday 22 June 2013 08:44:01 Marius Liebenberg did opine:

> Its not the exact same picture. Many machines have the exact same frame
> but has it own branding. Other things that might chance is the start /
> stop buttons the color of the machine and other small cosmetics. My
> machine is painted green but believe me, its the same machine. I have
> seen several variations of the exact same thing. Mine is just a whole
> lot older than yours.
> 
> I tried the spring idea but I was not happy with the solution.
> 
> I made motor boxes for all four axis. All of them with a nema 34 and a
> 4:1 reduction. I also replaced all the screws with ball screw and nut.
> 
> I have a yahoo group that I use for students that attended my CNC
> courses. I will place the design files on and maybe some pictures if you
> want. Its really a very simple solution and nothing fancy. I need the
> machine to do some specific aluminium parts for which I believe it is
> good for. I have milled steel with it before but I felt like the machine
> was being stressed so I will stick to softer materials. Well maybe with
> the cnc option  can afford to take very small cuts on steel and get good
> results. Time will tell.
> 
> The groups is at
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cnc_support

I hate to be a killjoy but in order to see the files Marius, one must be a 
member of that yahoo group.  And you can't join a yahoo group with out 
adding another 50 spams to your inbox a day.  I get enough get rich quick 
and pecker stretching schemes from this or that magic pill vendor as it is.  
And huge amounts of it come from yahoo's servers.

> I will get some files ready and place them there.
> 
> On 2013/06/22 01:58 PM, Tomaz T. wrote:
> > You are saying that you are retrofitting same model of this machine?
> > If there is a chance, I would rally appreciate to see design that you
> > have.
> > 
> > 
> > I agree, I was also considering to mount gearing directly on pinion
> > shaft that drives quill up and down, but I think there should be some
> > decent amount of force applied to quill in one direction (probably
> > downwards) to eliminate backlash as much as possible.
> > 
> > I found this thread about retrofitting an old RF mill/drill and he
> > also minimised backlash by reversing spring...
> > http://www.cnczone.com/forums/benchtop_machines/152240-hf_round_colum
> > n_mill_drill_build.html
> > 
> >> I am busy with mine at this very moment. What I did to overcome the
> >> quill issues was to remove the hand wheel and spring assembly and fit
> >> a motor with reduction directly to the shaft that turns the quill up
> >> and down. Mine has a very tight fit and no noticable backlash. The
> >> small hand wheel on the other hand was poor. I tried to use the
> >> spring to counter the backlash but it was not a good plan.
> >> I use nema 34 motors on the whole conversion. If you are interested,
> >> I could pass the design files on to you.

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