On Sat, 01 Mar 2014 21:19:06 -0500, you wrote:

>I've had a number of problems when plugging into industrial devices that 
>have a USB interface.   The lack of isolation is oftentimes a problem.
>Othertimes my laptop will confuse the industrial device with another 
>common USB device like a stick drive, even if the driver for the 
>industrial device has been loaded.
>I've never had similar issues with RS232 or Ethernet interfaces.

The idea behind USB is good but is often let down by OEM penny pinching
on design, firmware and software. Many devices simply do not meet USB
standards and the myriad of different things a USB device could be can
make it a lottery sometimes. 

Laptops are particularly bad - hidden power saving that you can't
disable, even via bios and half baked hardware, like you say with
isolation, or alternately a lack of ground problem. I've seen the
confusion problem too, not only with laptops. "Plug and pray" sometimes
doesn't. Again, crappy hardware, power saving or driver problems. 

The most common fix is always install any supplied drivers WITHOUT the
device plugged in. Also cycling the power by shutting down then removing
batteries, and/or mains for a few minutes often fixes confused PC's.

RS232 is becoming rare on modern devices, it's slow and single ended and
relies on a common signal ground between devices. That can introduce
it's own problems. 

Ethernet is complex and needs careful design to work at all - hence it's
expensive.

See
http://www.iebmedia.com/index.php?id=8777&parentid=74&themeid=255&showdetail=true


Steve Blackmore
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