Am 13.03.2014 um 21:10 schrieb Mark Tucker <m...@rmtucker.f2s.com>:

> Michael
> 
> Why would we need the developer enviroment on a running 
> beaglebone/machinekit?

good question.

I might just have a different perspective on that question because I for me 
right now it is a development environment, which means lots of pull, build, 
test, repeat cycles

for instance, we're preparing a demo for Charles's reprap show this weekend, 
and if everything goes right we will have the right half of this video running 
on an Android tablet in time:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6xRGh_z7fc  
(note key fact: the UI on the right side does _not_ run on the beaglebone; it 
does however talk to the beaglebone HAL - its a normal gladevcp panel)


happy to hear for you machinekit is almost an appliance! really a compliment to 
Charles for his excellent packaging job

In fact I was already wondering because we see lots of downloads of the BB 
image (> 1000 by now) but very few complaints - wonder where these guys are ;)


> Once it is running it can be left alone on the eMMc and boot off a big 
> memory card for development.
> Or is it a case of when you have compiled linuxcnc,it will not run 
> without the developer enviroment.
> 
> I think as charles mentioned to me,What we need is a pre-built package 
> from linuxcnc so it can just be installed through apt etc.without all 
> the docs and manuals and other redundant stuff.
> 
> I will be quite happy when i have it running right to lock it down,and 
> only make a new image when substantial updates come along.
> 
> The whole reason i switched from mach3 was to get away from computers 
> breaking down in harsh workshop/garage enviroments every winter.

very interesting angle. I never thought of that, but it makes a lot of sense.

> The memory card image is the only weak link in what is a fantastic bit 
> of kit.
> I now use it every day in a production enviroment and i am sure it will 
> only get better.

packaging a tree into a run-only image which is copied to flash makes perfect 
sense

do you see a way how you can help with the effort? pretty sure Charles would 
not mind a hand with that job - all his scripts are public, so it's 'mere work' 
;)

fork on github, have a go at it

- Michael


> Regards
> Mark
> 
> On 13/03/14 18:48, Michael Haberler wrote:
>> Mark,
>> 
>> Am 13.03.2014 um 19:30 schrieb Mark Tucker <m...@rmtucker.f2s.com>:
>> 
>>> This seems like another good reason to get this to fit on the eMMc to
>>> avoid killing the card slot.
>> very good point
>> 
>> would you mind looking into the issue - getting rid of all non-essential 
>> packages and see if you can get the image below 2GB?
>> 
>> that would be really helpful!
>> 
>> what can go for sure is docs and the doc toolchain (texlive, asciidoc, 
>> dblatex etc) but that didnt get me below 3GB
>> 
>> I think the key question to answer to is 'can you get below 2GB and still be 
>> able to rebuild on the BB' (i.e. development environment, headers etc all 
>> present)
>> 
>> - Michael
>> 
>> 
>> 
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