On Tuesday 16 June 2015 07:54:12 Dave Cole wrote:
> Github was in the news recently regarding their valuation and this:
> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-15/github-said-to-seek-
>2-billion-valuation-in-latest-financing
>
> So apparently someone thinks that they have some great value. Not that
> I agree..
>
> Dave
>
> On 6/16/2015 3:39 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote:
> > On 15.06.15 13:54, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> >> Are you sure you're not confusing GitHub with SourceForge? There
> >> was a recent brouhaha with SF downloads of several projects.
> >>
> >>> This is not a tasty turn of events since github changed hands a
> >>> while back.
> >>
> >> Yup, that's probably Sourceforge---I don't think GitHub changed
> >> corporate structure, and it's not that old anyway, unlike
> >> Sourceforge which dates back a while.
> >
> > Yes, the only thing I've read on it recently is:
> >
> > http://fossforce.com/2015/06/sourceforge-not-making-a-graceful-exit/
> >
And that does not a rosy picture paint.

My fav os, nitros9, is hosted there under hg management.  I am tempted to 
setup a lifeboat of my own by setting up an hg clone done daily, so that 
I might have the last 30 days worth of it to recover for the nitros9 
community.  Its not that huge a project, and I have about 20 copies of 
it now as I never delete an old one when I pull & build the latest.

> > and it paints GitHub as the lifeboat.

Sounds like.

> > As I see it, they can't hijack GPLed code into private ownership,
> > but anyone can copy it, host it freely wherever, and the FOSS
> > community sails on blithely on the familiar course. Whether the
> > pirates call that a fork, or we call theirs something else, is hot
> > air about roses.

except they keep the familiar name, and we are left hanging, trying to 
come up with a name that says ours is the next great thing.  That can be 
incredibly difficult.  Gimp has chosen to hang onto the name, and make 
sure folks know where to obtain the real thing. But with all the windows 
bullshit flying about its very difficult to tell someone coming from the 
windows world that the download they paid for is not supported by the 
Gimp people, and even harder to make the well trained windows dweeb 
understand that the real thing is indeed free!  These folks have to 
first be made aware of the advantages of FOSS.  And then, their dept 
head won't let then get it, they are so obsessed with having the legal 
liability they can blame on someone else.

Some of these people really ought to grow a pair.

> > Yes, the suits can make us pay for on-line newspapers now, but our
> > code is not theirs to exploit, so long as we can find an alternative
> > hosting site. In extremis, projects might have to host their own, or
> > we might have to chip in a little now and then, as for wikipedia.
> >
> > In time, the suits will then realise that buying a Sourceforge is
> > buying an empty barn built on a bog.
> >
> > Erik
> >

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
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