Hi Gene, Thanks,
Warning,  Ramblings have been edited for size.  <GRIN>

> Warning, generalized ramblings of an old fart follow.
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> Usable torque was pretty much gone by 2000 rpm.
> 
I agree.  Since the resolution for the spindle isn't nearly as a big a deal
for a spindle I thought I'd use pulleys to step up the speed.  Unless I'm
using the spindle as an indexing head a minimum RPM of 30 is more than
reasonable for any large diameter threading that fits on that small a lathe.
I've found steppers don't do much better after about 700RPM.  So if I want
5600 RPM I'd have to go 1:8.  A stepper excels at a smooth 3.75 RPM and has
the torque so that a smooth 8x=30 RPM wouldn't be an issue.  Or just change
belts and pulleys for the different speed.

> Software step generation suffers from latency which causes less than a
> steady frequency, and this detracts from the usable torque because the
> motors speed is being asked to vary as much as 20% in a single
> revolution. On the x86 platform, the next slower software step frequency
> is nominally 20 Khz, but thats such a huge percentage change that
> neither is likely to be a usable step frequency for software generation.
> Because of that, the practical limit is lower, probably under 5Khz for
> stall free operation.  Thats about 600 Hz as you hear it from the motor
> when using a /8 diviser. Hardware (FPGA) generation raises that "bar"
> quite a ways. /16 to as much as /64 is usable then.  But a /64 explores
> the speed limits of the opto's in the drivers, limiting the top speeds.

I run the ELS at 20kHz.  I've also found about 700RPM as the limit with the
on board 8x micro-stepper.

> I only have one nema 34 motor, on the Z axis of my GO704 mill. Using a
> 5i25 card, and /16 as the microstep divisor, it has a huge resonance at
> one relatively low speed, but can happily run at 3x that speed while
> lifting the head of the machine.  How much of that resonance is the
> rather filligree mounting of this particular conversion kit I haven't
> determined. I would love to have been able to install some dampers, but
> the motors supplied are single ended shaft.

That's one of the questions I'd not yet posed about using a stepper for the
spindle.  On my JGRO CNC at some speeds they do growl.  I wonder if that
would translate to surface finish even with a belt drive.  The spindle and
chuck tend to be a pretty good damper though.

<SNIP>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> --


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