This is why you should buy/operate your own equipment and just buy a data plan for the modem, IMHO. -Tom
> On Oct 18, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks guys. > > When I boil it all down, the real problem I am having is dealing with > the cell phone companies. They like to "control" the customer > even when they don't know what they are doing. > > I'm crossing Sprint off my list. Next up is AT&T. I've got another > guy chasing solutions with Verizon, which is probably best since I have > some latent hate for Verizon > due to past issues. > > Jeff Epler turned me onto Ting a few years ago (very good advice), > unfortunately Sprint has Ting in handcuffs and won't let them expand > into industrial data markets. > Like I said, Sprint is big into controlling their customer, even if it > is their own MVNO like Ting. > > Dave > > > > On 10/17/2015 6:40 PM, Jack Coats wrote: >> if you need real encryption, put in a netscreen 5 on each end and get a >> signed certificate for them. When working for IT at a bank, we used them >> for our wire transfers for international wires, It can be hard core >> encryption. Once set up, it is dead easy to use. Netscreen 5 refurb is >> $125 or so on Amazon. New $600. Owned by Juniper Networks now days. >> >> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Jack Coats <j...@coats.org> wrote: >> >>> i used sprint for primary internet for a while. Last few years I have >>> Exede satellite feed. it is about $100/mo for 15GB, and $10/G additional >>> use, Other plans are available. It is pretty solid. I'd still go for a >>> wired feed to keep costs down. (No DSL or cable available) >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I need a fast connection as we want to be able to do remote video and >>>> also do debugging of the PLC control remotely via the comm link with the >>>> help of a remote video camera. >>>> >>>> One problem that I am having is that Sprint wants to control what device >>>> I use. They literally offer one device at a time and the last one was >>>> a 4G router that only supports VPN Passthrough even though they were >>>> "sure" that it would support a site to site VPN connection. >>>> I don't want to have two remote routers or boxes in the cabinet. Cost is >>>> not a problem. The Netgear 6100D I have used is $200 and that is >>>> considered very cheap. $600 would not be out of line if it can do what >>>> we want and has a fairly wide temperature range. This device will be in >>>> a box mounted outside. >>>> >>>> I can't use OpenVPN because there is no PC or server at the remote site. >>>> >>>> A GSM solution with AT&T would be ideal if they have sufficient coverage >>>> since swapping out the 4G router would only require swapping the SIM >>>> card instead of going through the ridiculous device activation routine >>>> that Sprint and Verizon requires. >>>> >>>> I think that AT&T will be my next call. I've pretty much run out of >>>> patience with Sprint. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> On 10/16/2015 11:50 PM, Tom Easterday wrote: >>>>> You didn't say what kind of throughput you need nor what your budget is >>>> but one option is something like a Cisco RV320 on each end with 4G modems >>>> attached. You can see a review of the router here: >>>>> >>>> http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/lanwan-reviews/32317-cisco-rv320-dual-gigabit-wan-vpn-router-reviewed?limitstart=0 >>>>> There is also a you tube video on configuring the modem: >>>> http://youtu.be/RXerRGEZFEI >>>>> I recommended the RV180 for a friend's business that needed sts vpn >>>> (over public internet, not over cellular) and it worked well for him and he >>>> said it was easy for them to set up and use. >>>>> There are of course other more diy setups using cell phones with >>>> tethering and using OpenVPN or such on your own processors. But you have >>>> to be careful as carriers may try to limit or block always on use of >>>> tethering and data plans may not fit your requirements. Or you get some >>>> cellular wifi hotspots and use them with OpenVPN. >>>>> See: >>>>> >>>> http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/other/security/security-howto/30353-how-to-set-up-a-site-to-site-vpn-with-openvpn >>>>>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> Key points - need help with a data cell phone connection to remote >>>>>> equipment via a VPN. >>>>>> >>>>>> Guys, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm working with some remotely located equipment and I need to >>>> establish >>>>>> a comm link to it. >>>>>> >>>>>> We have decided to go with a cell phone data connection. We want to >>>> be >>>>>> able to remotely access this equipment via a "site to site" VPN. >>>>>> This is different than a client/server VPN connection that people >>>>>> oftentimes use to connect back to corporate headquarters for email, >>>> file >>>>>> sharing etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> The remote equipment is ethernet based but it is not a generic PC, it's >>>>>> a PLC. So I need the remote cell phone modem/router to do all of the >>>>>> work of encrypting the data, establishing the VPN tunnel, etc. It >>>> needs >>>>>> to be a VPN Router with a 4G modem built in that supports a "site to >>>>>> site connection" and not just be a Router with VPN passthrough. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sprint sells a Netgear 6100D 4G router that is suppose to do this. I >>>>>> bought it and then Sprint told me that they will not support remote >>>>>> access on this device! >>>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone have any experience in doing this? I've been talking to >>>>>> "experts" at Sprint and they want me to use a Sprint approved 4G >>>>>> cell/router that only supports VPN pass through after I have told them >>>>>> over and over that I need to do a site to site VPN with their 4G router >>>>>> acting as a VPN endpoint. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sadly, they don't understand the requirements. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ironically, TP Link sells a "wired" VPN router for about $60 that does >>>>>> what I need, so I could "stack" routers to do what I need, but I really >>>>>> don't want to have two routers in the remote control box. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are some really brilliant people on this list so I am hoping that >>>>>> someone can give me some advice/direction etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank You! >>>>>> >>>>>> Dave >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Emc-developers mailing list >>>>>> emc-develop...@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Emc-developers mailing list >>>>> emc-develop...@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers >>>> --- >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Emc-users mailing list >>>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>>> <> ... 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