On Wednesday 25 November 2015 10:35:32 Rick Lair wrote:

> It's an "integrated" encoder, ( 2500 ppr incremental attached to the
> end of the servo) here is the servo,
>
> http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Motion_Control/Se
>rvo_Systems/Medium_Inertia_(1KW_-_3KW)_Servo_Systems/3KW_Servo_System_(
>Med_Inertia)/SVM-230
>
> I just found the /A and /B were interchanged, ( the wires coming from
> the drive are coming out of a 50 conductor cable, 28 AWG wire, with
> the poorest color scheme possible to differentiate the wires, they
> were RED/WHITE for the /A and WHITE/RED for the /B )

Good Grief Rick, what "genius" thought that was a good idea? I hope there 
is a difference in the stripe widths.

> I have found though, I cannot see the index-enable signal doing
> anything in halscope????? And I just triple checked those two little
> bastards.

Index enable is not usually the Z from the encoder. Look at it like its a 
cocking mechanism inside the P.I.D.

And the halscope, with its limited sample rate in a servo based system 
with no base-thread, probably will not see it, so use a real scope, and 
it may need a pricy writing speed if not a wideband digital.  On the 
analogue scope, it might be pretty dim.  Gigahertz + digital, while it 
can be a bitch to setup the capture, makes it very easy to see.

> No Z-/Z index signal could be an issue maybe in the grand scheme of
> things????

To a 99.44%=absolute chance IMO. :)

> Maybe a firmware issue?

Or a docs issue. A 50 pin cable, it could get lost in.

> Rick
>
> On 11/25/2015 10:07 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Wednesday 25 November 2015 08:59:45 Rick Lair wrote:
> >> Here is a screenshot of what it looks like, after the machine has
> >> homed itself, http://postimg.org/image/c8s8eqret/ look at the DTG
> >> of the A axis, why does it look like this, and why would it take
> >> off as soon as it homes itself, to some random position, like the
> >> one shown, at MAX_VELOCITY?
> >
> > If thats a servo, what sort of an encoder?
> >
> > I run my cheap table with a stepper, so no encoder involved.  If I
> > do "home it", its to a level bubble laying on a jaw, but I use
> > touchoff for that zero.  Handy for establishing the roughly correct
> > angles to turn a tool to for sharpening. That does not of course
> > handle its backlash and I have no automatic facility to lock it down
> > at any particular angle except the cheap brass thumbscrew, which is
> > in fact incapable of holding it.
> >
> >> To me it is acting like a run away servo, but that makes no sense
> >> to me, because after going over things multiple times and
> >> physically checking the analog drive voltage and the servo drive
> >> parameters again, I don't see how I can get a runaway.
> >>
> >> If I jog the table, in a positive rotation, I have a positive
> >> command voltage going to the drive, I get a positive table rotation
> >> physically and I get an upward counting DRO,
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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