On Saturday 02 January 2016 07:26:08 John Thornton wrote:

> I do have a "control transformer" which can be identified by the three
> fuses on top. One for X1 (secondary) and one each for L1 and L2. I
> went back and found out which was X1 and X2 and will correct my wiring
> today. My question is I have a filter on X1 and X2 should I ground
> before or after the filter?
>
> JT
>
Thats a hard call John.  I think I'd get out the scope & see which gave 
you the best noise rejection.  To get rid of ground loops because the 
scope has a 3rd pin power plug, I'd power it from the transformer. But 
that would also make the ground after the obvious choice. YMMV of 
course.

> On 1/1/2016 6:41 PM, John Kasunich wrote:
> > 120V transformer secondaries (in the USA) need to be grounded on
> > one side, even if they are part of a machine control panel.
> >
> > Such transformers are referred to as "control power transformers"
> > and traditionally powered electro-mechanical control devices such
> > as relays and contactors.  Today they still power those things, and
> > they also power AC-to-DC supplies that run the electronic parts of
> > the control.    The low voltage DC power distribution (typically
> > 24V) is sometimes un-grounded, sometimes single-point grounded, for
> > exactly the noise reasons Berthos mentions.  But the 120V "control
> > power" isn't used a the "reference" for anything - it is still
> > "dirty" power, although not as dirty as the main power that might be
> > going to a VFD or whatever.


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