I DID see there's "braking units" AND "braking resistors".  I am unclear 
on what's inside a braking unit.  I am sure it has a self-resetting 
breaker at least.  But that is not even all that good to have- opening 
of the breaker would cause the  VFD to go into an overvolt error state.  
You won't likely need it- a 50W resistor can handle 200W for probably 
like 30 sec.  So tripping for overcurrent in 3 sec would be unnecessary.

I think it's a thermal breaker actually, on the resistor, rather than a 
current-based breaker.  Which is ok, just prevents exceeding max temp.  
But you won't ever approach that if you size the wattage correctly.

I was wondering if it somehow used a lower resistance than you would 
normally apply and PWM'ed itself when lower braking currents are 
required.    But I don't see how it could work that way, the bus voltage 
I think is fixed.

 From what I gather, a braking resistor should be fine.  The electronic 
braking units, I don't know what that adds.

Danny

On 3/13/2016 8:47 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 13 March 2016 09:30:30 John Thornton wrote:
>
>> I just used the the one for by the drive. I "think" not all drives
>> would use the same resistor. Just looking at the GS2 and there are 12
>> different braking resistors.
>>
> All of which are $435 a copy & still need some sort of an extra, external
> controller. AD thinks we are growing our own money on a tree in the back
> yard?
>
> I'll look at the controller I have first. I should be able to do it for
> under a $100 Ben Franklin picture.
>
>> http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Drives/GS2_%28115
>> _-z-_230_-z-_460_-z-_575_VAC_V-z-Hz_Control%29/GS2_Drive_Units_%28115_-
>> z-_230_-z-_460_-z-_575_VAC%29/GS2-23P0
>>
>> http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Drives/AC_Drive_(
>> VFD)_Spare_Parts_-a-_Accessories/GS_Braking_Options_(Braking_Units_-a-_
>> Resistors)/Braking_Options_(All_GS_Drives)/GS-23P0-BR
>>
>> JT
>>
>> On 3/13/2016 8:03 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> On Sunday 13 March 2016 07:40:25 John Thornton wrote:
>>>> On my GS-2 with the braking resistor I go from 1800 fwd to 1800 rev
>>>> in 1 second. I have both acceleration and deceleration set to 1/2
>>>> second.
>>>>
>>>> JT
>>> That would be considerably more usefull than the controllers default
>>> of 30 seconds.  Do you recall the specs of the resistor you used?
>>>
>>> Thanks John.
>>>
>>>> On 3/12/2016 10:12 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>>> Greetings everybody;
>>>>>
>>>>> Given that I note the vfd's seem to have an adjustable
>>>>> accelleration control, and that my couple of hours playing with it
>>>>> from its own front panel, I am led at ask the question of just how
>>>>> fast can one of these things be reversed from say 1000 rpm at the
>>>>> motor spindle?
>>>>>
>>>>> I ask because my present setup, using the OEM PM DC motor which is
>>>>> all gear drive to the spindle, one of Jons pwm servo amplifiers
>>>>> and a 125 volt dc supply, reversals at the turn around depth of
>>>>> this cycle of a peck tapping operation, with the spindle doing 300
>>>>> rpms, is a very small fraction of a second, far less than 30
>>>>> degrees of rotation.  Based on its reversal performance at 2500
>>>>> rpms being a slim second, I am concerned that the vfd may not be
>>>>> able to reverse so quickly, and will impact my use of G33.1
>>>>> because of the turnaround over shoots.  On my lathe, with its
>>>>> fragile drive train and a 5" chuck, this overshoot is between 2
>>>>> and 3 turns at 250 running rpms.  Usable, but if I don't stop it
>>>>> soon enough, the tap may bottom out and break.
>>>>>
>>>>> What has been the experience of others using smaller vfd's and
>>>>> motors?
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you still do rigid tapping safely?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
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