On Wednesday 16 March 2016 13:26:47 Todd Zuercher wrote:

> Bringing back an older thread.  Went to start ordering the things I
> need for the update and noticed that the conduit to the machine isn't
> big enough for the new wiring.  Right now the 9 single phase circuits
> are run through two 3/4" conduits (4 in one 5 in the other).  would it
> be a really bad idea or against regs, to split the 3ph wiring between
> the 2 conduits? (2+ground in one and 1+nutral in the other)

Thats a bad thought in general Todd.  Any longitudinal noise is now cross 
coupled into both conduits and their contents.  In fact, I would run one 
new conduit big enough to handle the power, put all the power in that 
one, and all the data in the other.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gregg Eshelman" <g_ala...@yahoo.com>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016
> 6:10:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Rewire Question?
>
> On 2/6/2016 3:23 PM, Dave Cole wrote:
> > Make sure whatever you do that you have a way to lock out the main
> > breaker in the off position.
> > Osha wants to see that and it makes good sense.   Make sure you also
> > have a couple of red "lock out padlocks" around also.  Keep one with
> > your tools.
> > I had a guy come up to me and ask what I was doing just as I was
> > packing up my things after servicing a machine at a manufacturing
> > plant. The idiot who was with him ( a plant management person )
> > failed to mention that he was an Osha enforcement guy so I explained
> > what I had done and then the Osha guy introduced himself.
> > He asked if I lockout the machines I work on and I just pointed at
> > my lock hanging on my tool bag strap and said, there's my lock. The
> > truth is that the machines are impossible to debug with the power
> > off.  But that doesn't matter, as they will happily fine you
> > regardless.    The fines normally start with 4 digit numbers.
> > I don't visit that plant much any longer.   They now ship the
> > machines to another location so they can be serviced.   Their safety
> > "rules" are so difficult to deal with that it makes no sense to try
> > and do work in that plant.   For the same reason they can't keep any
> > decent engineers or technicians at that location. I predict the
> > plant will be closing within the next 5 years. The plant machinery
> > will probably end up in Mexico.
> > I'm all for being safe since it is my butt that is on the line, but
> > there is a level of common sense that must be used.
> >
> > Osha and some plants seem to forget that from time to time.
>
> On some other forum I read a post by a person who used to work in a
> shop when a new CNC machining center was installed.
>
>  From where the controls were, it was impossible to see the tools to
> jog them into position if the door was closed. Open the door and
> nothing could be moved.
>
> The fix was a wedge someone made to jimmy the door sensor so the
> operator could see into the machine when jogging it. It could be
> quickly removed if an inspector showed up.
>
> That's what happens when a machine is so over-saftied, it forces
> operators to disable safety systems in order to make it usable. How it
> should have been built is either with the controls mounted so that the
> operator could see into the work space while standing at them, or the
> door safety should only have locked out the spindle and turret
> rotations, while limiting axis travel to slow speeds. That would have
> made setting up quicker and safe. Select the tool, open door and set
> position. Close door and select next tool. Repeat until all tools are
> set.
>
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