On 3 May 2016 at 14:31, John Kasunich <jmkasun...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
> Is there any particular reason you are using SSRs instead of
> regular contactors?  I like contactors because they are rugged
> and pretty much immune to overvoltage, dv/dt, and di/dt problems.

Mainly it is a matter of available space (or became such). I found
that I didn't have the room in the existing control cabinet in the
side of the lathe, and I found another space inside a cover behind the
headstock where the feed motor used to live.
>
> Contactors (or electromechanical relays) also provide an air-gap
> between line power and the load, which means I'm comfortable
> using them in an e-stop circuit.

I do have a proper contactor upstream of the PSU that is controlled by
the e-stop circuit. The first SSR is there mainly as part of the
power-off discharge arrangement.

> Also, is there any particular reason you are running the full load
> current through both relays?

Yes, the reason is that I didn't think things through properly :-)
This PSU is a development of one that I have been using in my milling
machine. That one uses a 230V coil relay with a NC contact that
connects the discharge resistor when the power to the PSU goes off. On
that one there was a second relay controlled by a 555 timer circuit.
It was only later that I realised that I could more intelligently
control the system via HAL, as the servo drives report bus voltage
back to HAL. The specific reason to want to do this is to avoid
turning _on_ the PSU while the cap is discharging, as trying to break
the discharge (DC) voltage leads to relay failure. So I now have
things interlocked so that HAL won't turn on the PSU unless bus
voltage is < 2V.
Given that I now have intelligent control of the PSU, I can see that
your system makes a lot of sense.
If there is no reason not to leave the pre-charge relay closed during
operation, I could even use the existing mechanical relay that brings
in the discharge resistor. Is there a reason to switch-out the
precharge relay once the main contactor is closed? I guess the danger
is that if the main contactor fails to operate the machine would run
through the precharge resistor. Though I imagine that that would cause
an easily-detected undervoltage fault in the drives.

-- 
atp
"A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
lunatics."
— George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1916

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