On Monday 23 May 2016 12:12:21 W. Martinjak wrote:

> On 2016-05-23 17:28, andy pugh wrote:
> > On 23 May 2016 at 13:40, W. Martinjak <mats...@play-pla.net> wrote:
> >> It's right that the off-topic stuff quietens, but if you are the
> >> "wrong one" not just the off-topic stuff. Then suddenly there is
> >> silence for hours.
> >
> > That often happens anyway. The IRC can sometimes be the absolute
> > best support channel. Or, if you get unlucky or it is a quiet time,
> > it can be entirely useless.
>
> Yes, or someone treats you as a complete fool and you find yourself
> online with a helpdesk like Al Bundy. And this cronyism is weird.
>
> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc-devel/2016-0
>5-23.html#10:01:32
>
> My fancy to develop for lcnc is lowering to sea level.
> Wasted time.
>
I am sorry to hear that.  And it makes me sad.

I personally think its the Bees Knees, particularly since it runs on a 
free os (with kernel patches), that is a heckovalot more secure, and the 
developers are right here ready to answer your questions the next time 
they are near a networked computer.  You cannot do that with Mach, or 
anything else that runs on windows, a closed source platform I have 
never allowed on the premises except for an XP laptop I bought for on 
the road use about 3 months after XP shipped. That install was wiped  
and Mandrake installed when I found the winsows driver for the radio in 
it could run that radio chip that was in it.  So installing Mandrake 
wasn't a loss when it could run a bcm-4318 chipset either.  

That freedom to play, all by itself, was reason enough to stick around 
and help, if nothing better, by running the next versions pre-issues on 
your own machinery and reporting bugs or strange behavior as soon as its 
noticed.  The recent spate of running into a following error and having 
that destroy your co-ordinate system in use by resetting it to a g54 
that is NOT g54, but you have to go to the MDI entry after restarting 
the machine and set it again to g54, than back to the system in use at 
the time of the error before you can make the machine do anything that 
makes sense. I first thought it was me, but I sure confirmed it in 
2.8-pre when it was noted that 2.7.current was similarly effected.

I don't mind playing the canary in a coal mine bit as long as it doesn't 
kill me, and it makes me think that my reporting is helping to make 
LinuxCNC better.  If that helps make LinuxCNC better, its definitely 
worth my time to hunt-n-peck sometimes long winded msgs to these 2 
lists.

But, one, even I needs reminded at times of TANSTAAFL as it is a basic 
rule of the universe.

So stick around, if for no other reason than to see what happens 
tomorrow.  It might even be funny!

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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