Hi Gene
some reports on ATS-667
" What I found is that the polarity of the output is not the same when 
the unit is powered with a tooth in sensing range as it is when a tooth 
is not there! "

http://www.msextra.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=131&t=45528

and suggests a similar product from Honeywell
http://sensing.honeywell.com/1gt101dc-hall-effect-gear-tooth-sensor-88720-sep91-install.pdf

or this one from taiwan
http://www.chiarey.com/products-en.html
look for Guboa HiSpeed sensors

just fyi
tomp

On 07/22/16 11:43, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 21 July 2016 23:54:31 Gene Heskett wrote:
>
>> Greetings all;
>>
>> Just for S&G I stopped at the place that still has that old Porter
>> lathe he wanted $500 for a couple years ago. About a 16"er, 6 foot or
>> more bed, but no motor.  It would have been at least a year at my pace
>> to bring it back to life.
>>
>> But that wasn't the surprise.  That was in the form of an old air
>> compressor he had taken as junk from the local horsepistol in a
>> remodel/upgrade of some sort. One big horizontal tank, with two
>> overhead pads on it, each of which held a single cylinder, 1 hp
>> compressor, and each had its own 1HP 3 phase 230 volt Dayton motor
>> that spun very freely and had no endplay, so since the bearing numbers
>> were on the label, I have to assume ball bearing. I offered him 50
>> bucks for both of them.
>>
>> Next thing I knew, he was dragging out the cutting torch because the
>> bolts were rusted and hard to get to, so both are sitting on my garage
>> floor right now.
>>
>> I have company, 2 of my boys will be in Sunday thru Tuesday this next
>> week, so we'll have to make a trip, maybe two, to the rifle range, but
>> if I can find a round tuit before then, I'll have both of them
>> clipleaded to that 1.5 HP rated inverter & see how they like running a
>> bit faster than 60 hz for 1750 revs.
>>
>> In other words, I found a motor, and with luck a spare that I can run
>> with linuxcnc for rigid tapping and such on this Sheldon.  One more
>> problem solved, although I may have to build a lock pin of some sort
>> to keep from unscrewing the chuck with a quick reverse.  And now I
>> need to find where to put an encoder on it.  More shade tree
>> engineering I think.
>>
>> So things are looking up at a bit better angle. ;-)
>>
>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> I just went out and stared at it for a couple minutes, and something
> along the lines of Jon's Bridgeport and the hall effect sensors Jon
> Elson used looks doable.  But with this motor potentially having the
> ability to do 8k rpms with this inverter, and the big gear on the
> spindle right behind the front bearing looks like a good candidate, but
> this motor has the ability to turn the spindle well above the 1300 it
> can do now (faster than I'd be comfy standing in line with it) and thats
> about 10EE20 teeth a minute gong by a hall when its throwing lube oil 20
> feet.  So my question is, since that gear must have at least 100 teeth,
> are the halls that fast?
>
> I just pulled the allegro ATS-667 datasheet to see if I can get any
> schmardter. Looking at that, 10u-s on delay, sub-microsecond off delay,
> So it should to twenty kilohertz. So it should work up to anything I'd
> be comfy around. I'll have to eyeball some more for an index trigger
> though.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett


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