Actually there are some 2 piece wheels that are considered safe also. They look like the 3 piece wheels but don't have the 3rd locking ring. The original 2 piece wheels are the really hazardous ones..
Here is a description of them and a picture and diagram. http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1337745-65-f350-17in-wheels.html They were called the Firestone RH5 wheels and they were nicknamed the widow makers.. Dave On 7/28/2016 1:11 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > The 8-14.5 size is available with a full DOT rating and used a lot on > low platform trailers... They are really tough tires. > I have 8 of them on a 12 ton backhoe trailer. I've never blown one > and they are rated for over 3000 lbs each. The mobile home version > says "Mobile Home" or "MH" right on the side of the tires. > > The original split rim design was horribly bad but they have been > obsolete for 20+ years. The original design actually split the wheel > down the center.. and they were two piece. > Lock rim wheels (3 piece wheels) are a good design and very safe, but > they can't be reused if they are all rusty, etc, but that is true of > most wheels. > > Commercial truck tire places will work on 3 piece wheels, but they > won't touch a two piece wheel. > > Dave > > > On 7/28/2016 11:17 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: >> Moblehome tires and rims are scary, and there is a good reason they >> are illegal to use on the road for other than their intended >> purpose. I've had the misfortune of having to try to reseat one of >> them before, same problems as you had, but I was able to get it with >> a strap and a clip on air hose after taking out the valve core (and a >> lot of fiddling). >> >> Split rim truck tires are another thing I've heard enough horror >> stories about that I won't mess with them myself. >> >> I've never tried the either can trick, and have only watched it from >> a safe distance (the other side of a video screen.) >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dave Cole" <linuxcncro...@gmail.com> >> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 10:26:54 AM >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT Seating Tire Bead >> >> If you mount many tires you need one of these. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pUJ8990HQc >> >> I made one with identical valving setup except I used a 1/2" valve for >> the blast valve and a 3/8" valve for the fill valve. >> 1/2" pipe is plenty big enough for the blast tube... flatten the end so >> it fits between the bead and the wheel. >> >> Instead of a propane tank I used a generic tire fill tank like this one. >> http://www.harborfreight.com/5-gallon-portable-air-tank-65594.html >> >> This thing will mount tires that you simply cannot mount any other way. >> >> I had some twisted 8-14.5 trailer tires (mobile home size) and I could >> get them on the wheels ok ( I use cooking spray oil for tire lube - >> works great). >> Then I used a ratchet strap for a tire expander which got the beads >> within 1/8" of the wheel bead.. but that is way too big to get the tires >> to seat. >> >> Fill the blaster to full system pressure ( about 100 psi in my case ) >> put it between the tire bead the the wheel bead and blast away.. it >> blows the tire onto the rim when done right. >> >> If you clip an airline onto the tire valve so it is filling at the same >> time as when you blast the tire, it is even more effective, as done in >> the video. >> >> I should have made one of these 20 years ago! >> >> >>if your need more excitement in your life you could always try the >> squirt of either trick >> >> I've done my share of stupid things in my life, but I'm not stupid >> enough to do that trick.. A guy not far from me literally lost his head >> when a tire exploded as he leaned over it. The tire and wheel blew off >> the ground as the tire exploded on the floor side and propelled the tire >> to the roof - but his head was in the way. Get one of those clip on >> air fill valves and fill all questionable tires from a distance. Some >> people put a truck bumper over the wheel and tire before inflating >> questionable tires just in case they blow. I do that when I mount >> tires on three piece wheels (lock ring rims). >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> On 7/28/2016 8:44 AM, John Thornton wrote: >>> The easy way to seat the bead on a riding lawnmower tire is to place >>> the >>> tire on a bucket, cover the center with a rag, push down on the rim, >>> inflate. The air pressure will build up in the bucket and you can feel >>> the rim rising up to force the tire to expand to seat the bead. Works >>> every time. >>> >>> JT >>> >>> >>> On 7/28/2016 7:27 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: >>>> Sorry Gene, This is what I wrote. >>>> >>>> I've had some luck re-seating stubborn old tires by jacking up the >>>> wheel so there is no weight on it, then if the tire still won't >>>> seat, wrap a ratchet strap around the circumference of the tire and >>>> tightening it down until just before the tread is about to buckle. >>>> This will usually push the tire beads out enough to get them to >>>> start to seal against the rim. (a bottle of tire slime put in and >>>> smeared on the tire beads would be a good idea as well.) >>>> >>>> Failing that or if your need more excitement in your life you could >>>> always try the squirt of either trick. >>>> >>>> Or just throw a tube in it. >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Gene Heskett" <ghesk...@shentel.net> >>>> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 12:19:27 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT Seating Tire Bead >>>> >>>> On Wednesday 27 July 2016 23:30:21 Todd Zuercher wrote: >>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Gene Heskett" <ghesk...@shentel.net> >>>>> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 8:41:09 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Nother Q about these Chinese inverters >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday 27 July 2016 11:26:55 Gene Heskett wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I got everything hauled to the scene except my clamshell digger. >>>>> Plumb wore the old man out. The rider had a flat tire that did NOT >>>>> want to re-seat and hold air. Needs new rear tires, guessing 25 yo & >>>>> badly weatherchecked. And them'er $50/copy. Sigh. OTOH, I am still >>>>> looking down at the grass. :) >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, Gene Heskett >>>> Your reply got auto snipped Todd, as it was all below my sig >>>> separator! >>>> >>>> To summerize, I did all of that, but I had to bring my 4 ton rated >>>> handyman around to pick it up, and its weight combined with my bad >>>> back, >>>> collapsed disks, I hurt myself pretty good by the time I actually had >>>> air in it again. A bit of time in the sack, and one of my near beers >>>> and I think I can walk back to the kitchen and make some leftover >>>> chinese food disappear. >>>> >>>> Then tonight is put out the trash night, which I did very very >>>> carefully. >>>> >>>> I expect it will be flat again in the morning as my last mowing >>>> took me >>>> across some rosebush runners which probably perforated it several more >>>> times. I've been considering fresh tires on the back for at least a >>>> year as the knobs they used to have for tread are now about 1/16" high >>>> and are surrounded by visible carcass threads. I've now replaced both >>>> front tires in the last year, for the same reason. Stems check fine, >>>> but the air leaves anyway. >>>> >>>> Cheers Todd, Gene Heskett >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
