On Monday 20 February 2017 23:09:50 Erik Christiansen wrote:

> On 20.02.17 22:57, TJoseph Powderly wrote:
> > Thanks Erik
> > my beaglebone, qubie and orangePiPlus2e cant do graphics like the
> > video you posted ( heck my dm510 cant do it either ) All of those
> > were candidates for linuxcnc but are now just bookshelf knickknacks.
>
> It is to replace my desktop machine that I ordered the Udoo X86, as
> youtube etc. currently run like a dog. That the Udoo runs off 12v DC
> also makes it a good candidate for running off solar power out on the
> farm.
>
> > the video doesnt prove that an rt kernel linuxcnc image would run
> > that well, but hope springs eternal. I'd think that ethernet mesa
> > cards might be used as well as the weirdo pcie cable extension
> > thingy.
>
> Yeah, maybe "instead of". While your wikipedia M.2 link refers to
> "PCIe ×2" for Key-B M.2, the Udoo X86 glossy leaflet masquerading as a
> datasheet:
>
> http://www.seco.com/misk/UDOO_X86_datasheet.pdf
>
> only mentions M.2 Key-B in the "Mass Storage" section. There is no
> mention of PCIe in the "Other Interfaces" section. Hold on! In the
> "Networks" row, there's "M.2 Key E slot", but it's possible they've
> gone no further than support 'PCM "WiFi/Bluetooth cards"'.
>
> It is entirely likely that ethernet Mesa cards are the only way to go
> with this SBC.
>
> > Please keep us posted on the Udoo and any experiences with linuxcnc
> > on it
> > tomp tjtr33
>
> By the projected delivery date of end March, it'll be half a year
> since my order. Let's hope it turns up then. Looking closer, it
> appears that the original kickstarter subscribers haven't had anything
> yet, either. On the other hand, they do say the new board design is
> good to go, and production is now the last hurdle.
>
> I'll take a look at available ethernet Mesa cards then, assuming
> there's a practical adaptor for M.2 E-key to PCIe cable.
>
> Erik
>
If perchance this magic new device has some fast gpio, and a spi driver 
could be written for it, the 7i90HD with spi firmware might be usable?

That spi bus protocol is a 32 bit, 4 byte packet going each way, with a 
32 megabaud transfer rate in and out of a Raspberry pi 3b. Thats no 
slouch in the ability to do realtime control. Said another way, if the 
cpu power was there, one could run the servo-thread much faster than 1 
kilohertz. Without the hal calculations required, an update rate of 4 
megahertz for every bit of the 7i90's 72 pins of i/o could be achieved.

LCNC is sitting idle out there, and the pi doesn't isolate the isolcpus=3 
from being monitored by htop like it does on the x86 hardware, and the 
idling rtapi task is using 13.2% of cpu-3.  So I can add quite a bit of 
processing overhead in my .hal file's yet before it actually 
gets "busy".  Or run a servo-thread at 5 kilohertz.

Yes, you'll use a pile of ferrite snapon chokes, and pay real attention 
to a single bolt grounding system, but once thats understood it seems to 
Just Work(tm).  And that card is only a tad over a $60 bill on your 
front deck here in the USA. And its interface versatile, offering the 
same i/o features at the slower EPP parport rate if its a true 3.3 volt 
EPP port. But on the pi, the spi is only 4 signal wires not counting the 
8 commons, and still faster than the parport version is. I have no clue 
if a true EPP parport driver has even been written for the pi's. It 
doesn't have one natively that I'm aware of.

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