On Tuesday 07 March 2017 09:05:02 Dave Cole wrote:

> They do have some quality items, but you pay for them.
>
> You are revealing your age just a little.  :-)
> I've been around the block a few times as well.
>
> Regular oil based Rustoleum paint is good for at least 20 years
> outside if done with a primer and at least one heavy topcoat. But the
> surface has to be properly prepped.  I have past projects which have
> proved that.
>
> I recently purchased some one part polyurethane (moisture cured) from
> Rural King that says that it has a 30 year design life outside.
> Not bad for $80/gallon!
>
> I re-roofed the house a few years ago and decided against 50 year
> shingles since I won't need anything that will last that long. ;-)
>
> Dave
>
Chuckle.  Now you are thinking like me. :)  But PI had our placed 
re-shingled before the old one were done here about 5 years back, 
replacing a dark brown  with Shasta Whites.  Might not last as long, but 
I just about paid for the shingles in the reduced AC billing last 
summer.  The house was noticeably more comfortable.

> On 3/4/2017 11:25 PM, Chris Albertson wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> >> Usually when they put "marine" on the label the price automatically
> >> gets jacked up 50%. :-(
> >
> > I wish it was "only" 50%.   But WM has been my go-to store when I
> > need the best quality hardware, paint or electrical supplies.  
> > Where else can you walk into a local retail store and find made in
> > the US liquid tight sealed toggle switches, or even heat shrink tube
> > with an internal lining of hot melt glue or any hardware item in
> > type 316 stainless?
> >
> > Last I used that paint it was outdoors with a foam brush.  I have a
> > few items I painted that have been continuously outdoors for 30
> > years still looking very good.    But not cheap when you buy it by
> > the half quart.  Or maybe it is cheap when you consider the lifetime
> > cost
> >
> >> Two part poly/urethane paint is great stuff, but it is also very
> >> toxic.   Isocyanates are usually used as a catalyst.
> >>
> >> You need to be very careful with that stuff.   I have used it, and
> >> it works great, but it is a health risk if you don't use the right
> >> gear including good gloves, keep the paint off your skin, and a
> >> charcoal cartridge mask at a minimum if you spray it.
> >>
> >> Painters that use Poly/urethane paint regularly,  use supplied air
> >> systems with full body suits so they avoid the fumes entirely and
> >> keep it off their skin.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> On 3/4/2017 1:30 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>> On Saturday 04 March 2017 13:13:41 Chris Albertson wrote:
> >>>> Gene,
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you live anyplace near a large body of water.  If so there is
> >>>> a West Marine store near you.   Look for the paint there.  They
> >>>> sell stuff used by boat owners who keep their boat in salt water
> >>>> 24x7.  The best paint I found there is a catalyzed two part
> >>>> polyurethane.  It comes in two cans.  you mix then and then most
> >>>> use the paint within a short time.   You can spray it but it goes
> >>>> no well with a farm brush. How hard it it?  New cars now all have
> >>>> plastic painted bumpers, this is when the car makers use on the
> >>>> numbers. It is tough stuff. Problem is that whole price is over
> >>>> $100 per gallon and retail is about $80 per 1/2 quart.    But if
> >>>> you are after "bought" you need the kind of paint that is mixed
> >>>> just before use.
> >>>>
> >>>> The spray=on "epoxy" just epoxy power fillers in it and a normal
> >>>> binder.
> >>>>
> >>>> There is also the kind that uses UV light to catalyze the
> >>>> reaction but that is even more expensive and needs special UV
> >>>> light "ovens".  The dentist use this for filling now and my
> >>>> sister uses this in her finger nail solon.  Ive had here paint a
> >>>> smallpartthen place it in the UV box and then the only thing that
> >>>> gets it off is abrasives and a Dremel-like tool.
> >>>>
> >>>> The two part stuff will survive decades outdoors with direct
> >>>> exposure to salt water, good enough.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Erik Christiansen
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Chris, yes, StoneWall Jackson Lake's Dam is less than 2
> >>> miles south of town. I'd use up a 6 gallon tank in my 9.9, and
> >>> refill it from jerry cans twice from the headwaters of one leg to
> >>> the headwaters of the other main leg, and be several hours doing
> >>> it. In West Virginny, that qualify's as big. I'll see what Bill
> >>> Cunningham has on the shelf at his Warehouse Marine facility.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
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