....noatime http://en.tldp.org/LDP/solrhe/Securing-Optimizing-Linux-RH-Edition-v1.3/chap6sec73.html
..... Mutt http://www.tecmint.com/send-mail-from-command-line-using-mutt-command/ Dave On 3/12/2017 6:04 PM, Peter Blodow wrote: > Please, could someone explain to a poor physicist what noatime and Mutt are? > Peter > > Am 12.03.2017 16:34, schrieb dragon: >> For about three years now, I know of no other applications that has >> issues with noatime other than Mutt. Everyone always says 'but it breaks >> programs like Mutt' but in reality these days, my experience has been >> that it only breaks Mutt. There used to be more applications that it >> caused issues with but mostly they have either been patched or >> deprecated. I have been using noatime for about 5 years now and have >> experienced no issues with it on everything from desktops to servers to >> dedicated appliance type setups for realtime audio and radio automation. >> >> From what I have read, SSHFS has a bit more overhead in comparison to >> NFS. In fairness though, I have never personally tested for it. Perhaps >> someone else on the list has more info. On a desktop or server I >> wouldn't sweat it too much but on the Pi it could make a difference. You >> could just try both and see what happens. I have used both of them, >> depending on the situation, but have never compared the impact on system >> performance. Personally I wouldn't encrypt the remote mount on a secure >> LAN when using the Pi unless sensitive data was involved. That just >> seems like a lot of extra clock cycles for the little Pi, but perhaps I >> am worrying about nothing. >> >> Amanda... check the perms on the directory itself, in addition to what >> is set up for the mount. >> >> >> >> >> On 03/12/2017 08:23 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> On Sunday 12 March 2017 08:39:03 Erik Christiansen wrote: >>> >>>> On 11.03.17 16:42, Gene Heskett wrote: >>>>> On Saturday 11 March 2017 12:02:36 dragon wrote: >>>>>> I doubt that you will ever hit the end of life on a quality SD >>>>>> card, especially a large size one. The writes that you are doing, >>>>>> and thus the number of blocks, are TINY compared to what the cards >>>>>> were designed for... photos and videos. You can also run a flash >>>>>> file system instead of ext4 if you like. Checking that noatime is >>>>>> set for the filesystem would have a far greater effect than all of >>>>>> the writes that you will ever do in daily use. While true at one >>>>>> time, this whole wearing out flash storage thing is almost a non >>>>>> issue for use cases like this nowdays. >>>>> How do I check that, and with the rube goldberg's hired hand boot >>>>> configs used on the pi, how would I set the noatime option? >>>> AIUI, as relatime has long been the default (since kernel 2.6.30), you >>>> don't really need to do anything. Given that relatime only updates the >>>> access time if the previous access time was earlier than the current >>>> change time, there'll be slightly more writes than with noatime, but a >>>> lot less than with neither - and noatime breaks applications like >>>> mutt. >>>> >>>> If you do want to change it, then in /etc/fstab, add noatime to the >>>> comma-separated options in column 4. Before the relatime kernel >>>> default change, that was said to give a 10% performance boost. It >>>> shouldn't do anything noticeable now, I figure. >>>> >>>> If there's more recent info than that, it'd be interesting to hear. >>>> >>> I was concerned on the pi, but its there for /, but not for /boot. And I >>> was never a fan of mutt, nor is email handled on that machine. It's >>> running 3/4 ton of metal lathe. But I use what I describe as mounts to >>> put the high traffic dir as a mount over the top of an existing dir in >>> order to put, when its fully operational, that directory effectively >>> remoted to rotating media on this machine, useing sshfs. This does of >>> course show up in /etc/mtab. That in turn gives amanda a tummy ache >>> because although its wide open as far as perms go, its reported as no >>> permission despite there being an entry for that directory on the pi's >>> exclude list. So amanda yowl's about it in the emailed backup report, >>> but it does get backed up with the rest of this machine so its no >>> biggie. >>> >>>> Erik >>> Thanks for the clarification, Erik. >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> -------- Announcing the Oxford Dictionaries API! The API offers >>>> world-renowned dictionary content that is easy and intuitive to >>>> access. 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