On Friday 23 March 2018 19:24:58 a k wrote:

> I am in portland .
> 30 to 40 v ac I read between water pipe _ which is real ground and
> ground on the outlet pin that has cylindrical shape.
> Is this normal?
>
No!

But inspect that pipe, every inch of it all the way to real dirt. There 
may be a plastic connector, inserted someplace which will break that 
good ground connection. If so, jumper it from one side to the other with 
a solidly bolted connection using at least 10 gage solid copper wire.

Water, depending on its purity is at best a poor conductor, although it 
can kill you, and really pure water (distilled or deionized) is an 
excellent insulator.

> On Mar 23, 2018 4:03 PM, "Chris Albertson" <albertson.ch...@gmail.com>
>
> wrote:
> > Aram,
> >
> > Where to you live?  In North America, UK, ....?
> >
> > Building wiring conventions are different in different places. but
> > in general your system, taken as a whole needs to be connected to
> > exactly ONE ground reference.  No more no less.  The best way to
> > place a bolt some place and define that is "The Ground"

And all static grounds are to be stacked on this single bolt.

> > If you have 30+ volts AC on a ground pin  on an outlet you have a
> > problem that needs to be looked at by a good electrician.   It
> > should never be that high.   Some cases are thinks like corosion and
> > loose connections.   One cause I that think of is that in some older
> > buildings they were allowed to use metal conduit as the ground
> > connection.  Works OK at first but metal conduit rusts ofter time. 

> > Now day's we are required to pull a group cable
with its own static ground in this cable.

> >
> > On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 2:04 PM, a k <pccncmach...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > hi
> > > i reassemble my lcnc mill, and i found that axis move by them
> > > self. i think it is something to do with static electricity.
> > > i found ground - and when grounded lcnc body of machine - breaker
> > > turn
> >
> > off.
> >
> > > i measure with dc voltage between machine and ground 2. vdc and
> > > when i measure ac voltage between lcnc machine and ground it was
> > > 35 v AC.
> > >
> > > i know that when use real ground like a water pipe and ground in
> > > outlet there always will be current they always be 30 v ac.
> > > can it cause problem?

Yes, and while I'm commenting on a plastic connector, its entirely 
possible that a teflon taped water pipe joint could be an insulator.

> > > thanks
> > > aram
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