Hey Gene,

Wouldn't a square R-8 collet make things simpler? Something like this?
<https://www.carbideanddiamondtooling.com/R8-INCH-Square-Collets-4101>

Then you could just use square stock for your tap holders.

(Yeah, I know it's a bit late. But the idea just came to me in the middle
of last night.)

Regards,

Ken

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 7:29 PM, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote:

> On Tuesday 10 April 2018 17:05:51 Ken Strauss wrote:
>
> > The next standard size smaller than 3.3mm is #30 which is 0.129 rather
> > than 0.125.
> >
> I meant to say that I had on site. My #30 is already used up in two
> different number drill sets.  The 1/8" is working well after I  wrote a
> peck routine to keep the hole fairly clean. And I've rigged a 5/16" 8
> point socket and a drill with a hammer clutch to run the drawbolt. So
> next is to merge the 3 routines and setup the tool table a little
> better, so I can do the 3 operations for this stage in one swell foop,
> with tool changes separating the operations. It takes me at least 20
> secs to select the next operation from the recent menu. My mouse is too
> fast and goes off target too easily. So that wastes at least a minute as
> opposed to unpausing it after the tool has been changed. Might be a
> keyboard short cut that would be faster, something that opens the recent
> menu, then lets you select #3 because the next in the sequence is always
> #3. But I'm not familiar with 2/3ds of the keyboard stuffs.  Is that in
> the docs?
>
> I've a bunch of taps, so I'm making enough to hold all the good ones, for
> some definition of good. ;-)
>
> Just over half done, out of 52 brass slugs I cut, 25 to go, but its now
> going a lot faster since I rigged up a drill to run the drawbolt. And
> managed to get some go2 to hold the tap at an almost fixed TLO in a 3/16
> R8. Ack ups I should have some more tooling here tomorrow evening.
> Whether its the right stuff is TBD.
>
> Thanks Ken.
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 4:25 PM
> > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > > Subject: [Emc-users] depth stops for R8 while making tap hats?
> > >
> > > Hi guys;
> > >
> > > I find, at least for the remainder of this project, that I need some
> > > sort
> >
> > of a
> >
> > > depth stop to reliable reposition the 4mm tap I'm useing, currently
> > > in a
> >
> > 3/16"
> >
> > > R8 collet. A collar on the tap would work but I've not been able to
> > > locate
> >
> > a
> >
> > > suitable one. I've got the tap in a glob of g02 with the r8
> > > tightened on
> >
> > it, but
> >
> > > the 3/16 R8 will likely spring it loose as theres quite a bit of
> > > collapse
> >
> > by the
> >
> > > time Its got a good enough grip on the tap.
> > >
> > > Anybody else have a better idea for a depth stop?
> > >
> > > And looking around for another 3.3mm tap drill, which is
> > > 0.129921259842519685", its apparent that the next drill down is a
> > > 1/8",
> >
> > and
> >
> > > the tap will tolerate that .004 undersize ok in brass.  But I found
> > > some 3.3mm's over in Andy's stomping grounds on ebay, in 10 packs,
> > > and here about 2 weeks faster than the Chinese versions, but fleabay
> > > has been
> >
> > playing
> >
> > > with their card processing (again), giveing no opportunity to adjust
> > > the number of 10 packs, so I only have 1 pack of 10 coming. I sent
> > > ebay a mild nastygram because I really wanted 2 packs to save a few
> > > cents on postage.
> > >
> > > That teeny little 8mm square butt on the drawbolt is a PITA, too
> > > small to easily spin with fingers after its been loosened with that
> > > watch makers
> >
> > sized
> >
> > > wrench, but I just found a 5/16" 8 point socket on a 1/4" adapter in
> > > an 18
> >
> > volt
> >
> > > sorta hammer drill works, and if I can get the tap depth fixed, then
> > > I can
> >
> > series
> >
> > > all three operations into one file with tool changes between them.
> > > With
> >
> > the
> >
> > > drill to run the drawbolt, that ought to triple the production speed
> > > for
> >
> > these
> >
> > > things.
> > >
> > > If anyone ever designs a tool changer for a G0704 that doesn't
> > > impinge on
> >
> > its
> >
> > > working envelop, plz advise.
> > >
> > > What I've done so far looks good. I'd go on and actually mount this
> > > tap in
> >
> > the
> >
> > > first one, but I'd likely loose the current home+touch-off offsets
> > > of the
> >
> > current
> >
> > > setup. Or maybe I could setup the next 2 or 3 coordinate maps?
> > > Thats a thought... mumble mumble...
> > >
> > > --
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
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