On Wednesday 29 January 2020 01:27:01 Chris Albertson wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 11:06 AM Gene Heskett <[email protected]> 
wrote:
> > On Monday 27 January 2020 11:39:27 dave engvall wrote:
> > > Linuxcnc get used because it works ... at least well enough to get
> > > most jobs done.
>
> The topic came up because someone asked if anyone was using LinuxCNC
> for large scale work.   No one raised their hand.   Why are they not
> using LinuxCNC to make transmission parts at the Toyota factory?  It
> seems to be powering a few one-man shops and some hobby projects.
>
> Why?  Someone might think that open source is not usable in industrial
> settings but.  That is clearly not true.   It must be something about
> LinuxCNC that makes it unsuitable.       I'm guessing itis the
> platform and that it does not work well out of the box and is
> basically just a kt of parts and not a product and it does not scale
> well to large factory floor sized systems.

There was, several years back, a youtube video of linuxcnc machining the 
alu block for the TRO racing engine Toyota was leasing to serious 
racers. Very impressive video as it started as an alloy casting they 
found a V8 engine block ready to have sleeves fitted and the rest of the 
parts stuffed into it to make one of those high output engines. I assume 
it was taken down because it showed too much proprietary stuff about how 
it was done. Very impressive video at the time. Whoever wrote that gcode 
was an artist in metal.

> But it does work well-enough for small shops where the owner is
> willing to invest much of his own time.
>
> > > I hope Gene gets something workable out of the Rpi4; that looks
> > > promising.
> >
> > All I can say is download it, install it and try it.  Its working
> > great here with rpspi.ko into a 7i90HD and a triplet of 7i42TA's
> > which make the wiring a piece of cake.
> >
And I tried to install the Jan 20th build on my own rpi4 this morning, 
bailed out, missing dependency, so my page has been refreshed, and it 
does install and run now. See the README on my web page & pull what you 
need. Hit the site in my sig, add "lathe-stf/" to the address bar and 
then click on the linuxcnc4rpi4 link. My upload is slow but it should 
work.
 
> > > My vision of a new system is something very modular. Small boards
> > > running a microcontroller with some chance of the chip not
> > > disappearing too soon. Maybe that means burning FPGA's for each
> > > task and  hoping you can reuse most of the code on the next gen or
> > > two. Communication between boards via ZMQ. Use one for motion,
> > > another for task and other necessary bits and pieces.
> > >
> > >   Does  someone have a better idea than X for the display? Has
> > > anyone tried a browser as a GUI?
> >
> > Too laggy unless your net is 10Gbit.
> >
> > > Speaking of funding; I think the task is too big and diverse for
> > > crowd-funding.
> > >
> > > If someone really wants to get radical then write a controller
> > > that is all NURBS including the straight lines. Of course that
> > > also demands a cheap and usable CAD/CAM. I don't think one hands
> > > codes NURBS ... ;-)
> >
> > I have, but have not carved metal with it. I was curious to see if I
> > could contour a profile for a rifle barrel, but didn't touch metal
> > as it was SS and lost it in a card crash before I got smart about 8G
> > cards.
> >
> > > However that might take care of some of the lookahead problems.
> > > Just dreaming. Ha!
> >
> > Don't dream Dave, cut g-code and do it, on scrap to start.
> >
> > > ......Back to resurrecting my Mazak.
> > >
> > > Dave

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
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