hey chris

I have been using these servo drives for 2 years now.  yes just email them
and they will get in touch with you.  I keep in touch with bill who is
their sale rep.  on whatsapp and we chat.  Bill has basically taught me all
about servos lol.  and I knew nothing at the start so to say he has been
patient is a understatement.

btw the expensive prices in the document I linked at the start are for 400v
servos which I need in new zealand.  I have a Japanese cnc lathe here that
runs on 220v three phase through a step down transformer and the prices for
220v servo drives are significantly cheaper.  I was quoted 290 usd for a
2.4 kw matching servo drive and motor.  that includes all cables a braking
resistor and everything else needed to run it.  so I will be buying two of
these asap.

Modbus and canbus are a bit complicated you guys might be able to use that
but I can't get it to work.  and I have also given up on using their tuning
software.  I have spent so much time trying to get that to work.

another thing is you can't have pulse control (step dir) and analog 0-10v
at the same time.  they use separate boards.  it costs a extra 15 usd to
spec analog control.  which is what I will do next time as it is much
simpler I think.  just get a 7i77 and you are away.  though the step
direction method is good for easier set up even if the default tuning is
pretty loose.  then you can tune it later if needed.  I documented it a bit
on my build thread.  also I bought better encoders last time.  they are 13
bit I think  130107 PPR.  I was sending about 25000 ppr to the mesa card I
think.  you need to times it by 4 for quadrature also.  so it is a very
high resolution.  (encoders come from tiawan)


so step direction needs their tuning software or else you can close the
loop in linuxcnc and use halscope to just graph the position error and
velocity error.  Then make changes in the servo drive and see the changes
in halscope.  I used the spindle encoder counter on the 7i76 which is nice
as you don't need any more mesa cards.  this is only while tuning one axis
at a time.  afterward you can use the spindle encoder counter for the
spindle.  that worked a treat but was pretty hard to set up.


So currently I have two cnc machines that need to be retrofit.  One is a
4.2 ton slant bed cnc lathe.  with a fanuc controller.( what a pain )  and
the other is a 5.8 ton chevalier VMC with a Heidenhain controller on it
also a pain to fix lol.  I have given up trying to interface with the
existing stuff on both machines and will just buy new servos and drives.
It is not worth the hassle.  anyway here is what I am paying for everything

for the cnc lathe

2.4 kw servo drives 220v three phase   305 USD per axis  so 610 usd total

for the cnc mill

2.5 kw option  400v three phase  490 USD per axis

3 kw option 400v three phase 520 USD per axis

4th axis extra motor  400v three phase 1kw motor 320 USD I think for servo
drive and motor

and I will have second hand schiender vfd for the spindle.

so all up total is should cost  610 usd for the cnc lathe

and say 1500 usd for the cnc mill

plus shipping which I will combine with a order of tooling on the same
pallet load.

anyway just wanted to let people know the options..

Regards

Andrew



On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 8:55 PM Chris Albertson <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I tracked down the specs.  The model numbers in the price list are clearly
> servo motors not steppers.  THey have attached 2500 PPR encoders
>
> THe servo driver can be controlled by either a 10 volt analog signal, CAN
> bus or Serial RS485.  It also looks like the driver can send some
> digital outputs giving status like, current, positions and such.
>
> THey do also make three phase stepper motors and drivers for them.
>
> Their web site does not say how you can buy their products.  Nor is there
> is link I can find to detailed documentation  But they have an email
> address, you could ask.
>
> The prices look to be very good for what you get.
>
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 9:55 PM theman whosoldtheworld <
> [email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > justa a warm .... these is stepper motor ... for that price or little
> more
> > you can buy servo brushless motor .... consider china stepper with
> encoder
> > is not so good for retrofit or build a good mill or late normally have
> not
> > "intelligent" drive .... for some hobbyist router or 3dprinter can be ok.
> >
> > Il giorno gio 2 lug 2020 alle ore 23:53 andrew beck <
> > [email protected]> ha scritto:
> >
> > > hey everyone
> > >
> > > sorry for the mess up.  I changed the permissions now.  never normally
> > have
> > > trouble so I don't know why they changed the default permissions
> > >
> > > and here is the link again just in case
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1f90Jhh6oEA_5jervfwnMoePqwHrX6tKN/view?usp=sharing
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > here is the sellers website
> > >
> > > if this fails you can search for yuhai servos and they come straight up
> > >
> > > http://www.zjyuhai.cn/en/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 9:45 AM Ralph Stirling <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Still no identity of the mystery seller, Andrew.
> > > > Got a link to the supplier's website?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > -- Ralph
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > From: andrew beck [[email protected]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:09 PM
> > > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Cheap servo drives from China.
> > > >
> > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside the Walla Walla
> University
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > sorry guys!  I forgot to make it a open link
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> > > > try this
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> > > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 8:32 AM andrew beck <[email protected]
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey guys just so people know.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can buy a 240 v single phase 1kw motor and servo drive for 208
> > usd
> > > > > now.  Which is so cheap.  Here is a price list.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course I just buy from these guys not connected otherwise
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