On Monday 24 August 2020 19:43:22 Thaddeus Waldner wrote:

> A print with sturdy walls and mostly hollow interior describes a
> diaphragm structure. This is great for when you need a stiff part, but
> not so great for flex. What you need to do to get maximum strength and
> flexibility is to print the flex part solid and thin it from the
> outside.
>
My version would be a bit more OOTB, to thin the base to add more flex to 
the bottom of this cup. But I'm still figuring out cura. The walls being 
flexed seems to translate to an up and down deformation of the bottom of 
this "cup" and a thinner bottom might reduce the strain on the sidewall 
junction where it usually breaks. Done and resliced. The current copy 
I'm about to kill is bridging the bolt holes.  There is nothing above 
them, so why?  Turned it off. Took 2 layers out of the bottom, I think. 
With cura, who knows for sure?  Anyway, its building. And about an hour 
and change faster.

And we'll see what, if any diff, it makes tommorrow.

> > On Aug 24, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > On Monday 24 August 2020 06:15:16 andy pugh wrote:
> >> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 10:35, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net>
> >
> > wrote:
> >>> I hadn't thought of that, changing filament is a pita, but worth
> >>> the experiment.
> >>
> >> I think that I would be looking to  change the design. Where is it
> >> breaking?
> >
> > Most of the time right at the junction of the fillet at the edge of
> > the bottom disk, so the separation is at the first layer of wall. 
> > However, if the bearings size is adjusted so the splines are fully
> > engaged, then the breakage seems to correspond to the root of the
> > spline.
> >
> > Best lifetime before breakage corresponds to what I would call about
> > 90% engagement at the maximum, and a hop clearance at maximum pullin
> > between the bearings that doesn't result in a click as they hop over
> > each other. Half the tooth height for clearance is still too much
> > flex, and will break it in under 30 minutes if left running at 4 or
> > 5 rpm at the output.
> >
> > Definitely needs a filament with more elasticity than PLA. What TPU
> > I've seen on you-tube is way too much though.
> >
> > Cura's original wall count was 2, but that breaks by the time the
> > motor has turned 2 full turns.  At 6, its better but is beginning to
> > effect the motors ability to turn it at about an amp a coil drive.
> > The TB6560 doesn't map its coils well for microstepping which
> > results in its running at a fractionally slower rpm unless I stop it
> > and restart it from the function generators dials, effectively
> > bringing it up from zero speed.  But thats this crappy drivers
> > fault. Thats why you can buy this POS for about $6/copy on fleabay. 
> > What we need is a 2M542 for about 2 amps.
> >
> > Yep, a better design and some more flexible plastic is needed. Like
> > Yogi Berra said, is so true.  This one needs a bigger pair of main
> > bearings too.
> >
> > That said I found I was gonna be late writing a check for the
> > Missus's keep, so I started a flexgear and got in the truck to go do
> > that. Bout an 85 or 86 mile round trip.
> >
> > On arrival back here it had a clogged nozzle, so I killed that,
> > cleaned the nozzle and rethreaded it, getting some flow at 180C.  So
> > that might be a minimum temp sometime. Resliced it, taking a few
> > more defaults, getting the build time down to 10 something hours and
> > restarted another flexgear.
> >
> > This keeps me out of the bars.  You can get stuff in a bar, that
> > they don't have a pill for.
> >
> >> If you look at some other designs they incorporate flex-beams.
> >> https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2951164
> >> (Not the same type of harmonic drive, it uses two internal gears
> >> with the same diameter but different tooth counts)
> >> I think that the way to make the one you have more robust will be
> >> to make the strain gear more flexible (lower wall count, lower
> >> infil, probably the reverse of what you have been doing)
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
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