On Thursday 19 November 2020 12:23:01 dave engvall wrote: > On 11/18/20 11:45 AM, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: > > Redline Water Wetter or Royal Purple Ice might lower the temps. > > They're intended for use with plain water in race vehicles so that > > when there's a coolant leak they don't make the track or drag strip > > slick. > > > > Their effectiveness is decreased in a normal 50/50 > > antifreeze/water mix but they still lower the temp of an engine > > quite a bit, or keep one with a tendency to overheat on 50/50 from > > overheating. After changing the engine in my sister's 1995 Buick > > Century. I had the ECM chip reprogrammed to lower the fan ON temps > > by 15F, along with disabling the 112MPH limit and tweaking the fuel > > curves. Swapped the 195F thermostat for a 180F and it still wanted > > to run extra hot. A bottle of Water Wetter fixed that. It overheated > > because the "smart" people at GM thought it was a good idea to run a > > 16 PSI system at 195F, the instant the radiator cap weakens, thar > > she blows, or it'll blow a head gasket. They also decided the piston > > to cylinder clearance had to be extra snug. So when that engine > > overheats the pistons leave aluminum on the cylinder walls, the > > piston skits bend inwards a bit too. That makes them clatter, which > > sets off the knock sensor. That makes the ECU futz with the timing > > and fuel in such a way that *makes it run even hotter*. For 1996 GM > > applied a special coating the the skirts of pistons 5 and 6, then > > for 1997+ all six got the coating. Just couldn't admit that running > > it so hot was wrong, along with other things they did to it, without > > going far enough to make it able to handle the higher pressure it > > needed tow work properly at 195F. > > > > Anyway, the lower temp thermostat and ECU changes made it able to > > get out of it's own way and overall MPG improved a bit, likely due > > to less time being spent in accelerating up to speed since the > > engine could make more power and do it faster. On Wednesday, > > November 18, 2020, 12:33:32 AM MST, Gene Heskett > > <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 17 November 2020 18:59:14 Gene Heskett wrote: > >> On Tuesday 17 November 2020 13:18:50 andrew beck wrote: > >>> I will link some videos Gene. And can resize some photos when I > >>> get a sec. > >> > >> Okay. I spent the afternoon putting a fresh bob in the G0704 kit, > >> then tried to bore 1/4" holes lengthwise thru 5.5" of 1/2" alu, > >> with a 3" drill hog bit. That means I was drilling 3" deep from > >> both ends with the holes meeting in the middle. 4 such holes all > >> the way thru, 3 slightly missed each other but a 7mm reamer from > >> both ends of the holes fixed that right up. Now I need to hit the > >> store and get a small bottle of lysol for the kool mist sitting in > >> the coke bottle, and long johns for for some fish. Somewhere I > >> missed lunch and its catching up with me. > >> > >> Since I have another, better motor coming for the 6040 I am > >> tempted to put about 4 oz in the water tank, just for S & G. If it > >> doesn't total the water pump, I haven't lost anything. > > > > But beware, the lysol in a spray pump bottle from the grocery store > > is not the stinky stuff we all remember from our childhood, its now > > a soap, putting a head on the water and virtually odorless. I first > > put about 3 squirts in the mister bottle, and about 20 in the water > > tank. It been running at 4g's for about 8 hours And its likely > > well north of the lcd thermometers top of 40C. And if it doesn't do > > squat I won't be surprised, it isn't the real stuff, nothing like > > the lysol I remember. > > The 'new' lysol is a quat > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_ammonium_cation > > rather than the classic creosote based smelly stuff. > It should work quite well to suppress biological activity. > It will be well tested by next spring I'd wager, every time I make another coke bottle of mix, I'll top it off with a couple pumps of this stuff.
Thanks for looking it up. When I went to Advance Auto looking for a refresher additive for antifreeze anti corrosion stuff, they sold me a bottle of water wetter, claimed it was the same stuff. We'll test it by putting 1/4 of the bottle in with 4 gals of distilled. Thanks Dave. > > _______________________________________________ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
