There's only one issue with buying timing pulleys.  It appears most of the 
stock sizes are limited to 60T.  So I'd need a 15T pulley on the drive side to 
get my 4:1.

And it's really all about size.  To get a decent hold on the 19mm motor shaft 
(no threaded end hole) and to stay within my max 160mm driven pulley size I'm 
stuck with a max of 40mm.  Take away 19mm shaft plus 3mm key above the shaft 
and I have 18mm/2 or 9mm worth of pulley body to work with.  

A 40mm pulley has a circumference of 125.6mm.  Let's set it at 125 and use a 
5mm pitch belt.  That's a 25T pulley.  That means I need 100 teeth on the 
driven.  Again not a stock value.

So I think like Andy I'll have to make myself a cutter for the tooth profile I 
end up using.   I could buy a 25T and bore it to 19mm and broach the keyway.  I 
have the tools on hand for that since the Mill Spindle drive shaft is 19mm.

But even 60T pulleys start pushing $100 so really it's time to make my own.  
And since I want to change to toothed pulley for the spindle drive it's a good 
excuse.  Just need the size that can handle 2HP and 3000 RPM.

So many choices...

John



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Albertson [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: December-26-20 12:13 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Making L Type Timing pulleys.
> 
> I must have missed the designed size.  Yes there is a minimum size.  You
> need to have a minimum number of teeth engaged.  So even if you have a 13T
> pulley, if it is very close to a larger pully it would not have enough
> teeth on the belt.
> 
> You CAN design a system that works if you move to different tooth size and
> shape.   The specs on modern belts are better then the older L and MXL
> belts so you might be able to fit hat you want into the same space as the
> original.      You do a recalculation from scratch.
> 
> As to how to make the pulleys.   Just buy them.  But for testing you can 3D
> print timing gear pulleys.   I make mine by  printing a plastic ring with
> the teeth and then epoxying the ring to a steel pulley hub.   Fully printed
> pulleys don't work well but the hybrids are nearly perfect and really easy
> to make
> 
> To make a plastic ring, download the CAD file for the pulley from the
> vendors web site.  I use SPD/SI and get the .step file.   Then use yu CAD
> system to bore a huge hole (like 20mm or 30mm) in the pulley model.  Print
> that.   Then as the printer is working turn a 20mm or 30mm hub on your
> lathe and drill and tap for set screws.  What makes this a quick job is
> that they provide CAD files or every pulley so you don't need to know how
> to layout the teeth.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 11:57 AM andy pugh <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 at 19:34, John Dammeyer <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Making a new lower pulley with 9 teeth is out of the question.  It's too
> > small for only 9T and definitely won't fit on the 19mm motor shaft.  And
> > that's the kicker.  At almost 3/4" the pulley that goes onto it has to be
> > large enough to have a decent grip with set screws onto a 6mm key.
> >
> > I seem to recall that it is recommended to not go below 12T anyway.
> >
> > I don't know much about L and XL belts, all my machines have used T5.
> > T5 is available in widths from 8mm to 25mm.
> > https://www.bearingboys.co.uk/T5-Section-5mm-Pitch-1224-c
> >
> > I also have the correct hob for making custom T5 pulleys, so that is
> > one reason for _me_ to use them.
> >
> > You could consider ignoring the keyway, especially if the motor shafts
> > have a threaded hole in the end.
> >
> > I have several times taken inspiration from the Trantorque bushings:
> > https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/keyless-bushes/7542545/
> > However they require a huge central bore, so what I have done is
> > machine the pulley bore with a taper and then pull or push in a
> > sleeve.
> > At various times I have used a bolt in the end of the shaft, a nut
> > pulling the wedge through, or a ring of bolts to push the wedge in.
> >
> > Here is variation on the theme, with two tapers:
> > https://bodgesoc.blogspot.com/2017/01/gears.html
> >
> > --
> > atp
> > "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
> > designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
> > lunatics."
> > � George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
> >
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