Servo faults are relatively rare occurrences.  These machines are generally 
only shut down over weekends and holidays, and a fault that requires a restart 
only generally occurs a handful of times a year.  (mostly due to power 
failures.)  Nothing like most consumer electronics which may see multiple power 
cycles per day.  Besides with the reliability reputation Fanuc is know for, I'm 
pretty sure precautions and safety measures have been engineered into the 
designs to accommodate safely power cycling for much longer than the machines 
projected service life.

Todd Zuercher
P. Graham Dunn Inc.
630 Henry Street 
Dalton, Ohio 44618
Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 10:03 AM
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Dealing with Servo Faults

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On Wednesday 10 February 2021 09:11:58 Todd Zuercher wrote:

> On the Fanuc machines I work with a servo amp fault is very similar to 
> an e-stop condition, only worse.  In E-stop power is not removed from 
> the spindle VFD, the servos are disabled (I don't think power is 
> removed from them), and the VFD is sent an e-stop signal and brakes to 
> a stop (actually the VFD has an input that monitors the estop chain).
> The control and all logic circuits remain fully powered and any axis 
> brakes (such as for the Z axis) are engaged.  The effect of a servo 
> fault is essentially the same except the entire machine must be power 
> cycled at the main disconnect to clear the servo fault (simply power 
> cycling at the control is not enough.)  Where clearing an e-stop only 
> requires resetting the e-stop and pressing the reset button.  Part of 
> why I believe power is not removed from the servos at e-stop is the 
> fact that a tiny power blink on one or all phases will usually cause 
> the servos to set an alarm that requires cycling the power to reset.
> This is the same for multiple machine models from 3 different large 
> manufacturers.
>
> Todd Zuercher
> P. Graham Dunn Inc.
> 630 Henry Street
> Dalton, Ohio 44618
> Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031

I'd call that a major PITA Todd. The inrush from turning it back on likely 
accounts for 90% of the parts failures those controls suffer.

What the hell were they thinking?  More income from selling replacement boards?

Stuff with larger inrushes gets soft-started here, so that inrush is slowed 
some by a high powered resistor of 50 ohms or so in series with the line power 
for the first 3 or 4 seconds. IMO thats a powerfull contribution to not having 
any parts failures. The GO704 with its huge spindle supply, draws about 3 amps 
working the average job.  Tutn it on with a normal swich and you will useally 
hear a 30 amp breaker fall. But I've only a 20 in that slot for the last 5 
years, tripped once when I plugged a 1500 watt heater into that circuit. No 
repeats since turning the heater down to the 700 watt coil only.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Dammeyer <jo...@autoartisans.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 12:09 AM
> To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: [Emc-users] Dealing with 
> Servo Faults
>
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>
> Quick question.
>
> There's a multi-axis operation in progress.  For whatever reason one 
> of the servos throws out a fault and of course stops.
>
> Should just the enables to the other servo drives be removed or should 
> power be cut to all drives.
>
> I'm not really in favour of dropping out power because that would mean 
> you also lose the ability to easily recover.  The other drives and 
> spindle were working so you really just want them stopped and things 
> like coolant shut off.
>
> This isn't the same as an ESTOP which does remove all power that could 
> result in motion.  Low voltage control and PC are left running.
>
> For my PMDX-126 BoB my faults are consolidated and brings the PMDX 
> /FAULT input low.  That disables the ChargePump which in turn disables 
> all outputs including the enable to all the drive.  And the orange 
> button beside the red one on the user screen goes greyed out.
>
> After 4 seconds the /FAULT input is once again brought high (inactive) 
> and now the orange ENABLE button on the screen (or F2) can be clicked 
> which then asserts the ENABLE output to the drives and allows hardware 
> to be controlled again.
>
> For my servos taking the ENABLE signal FALSE and then TRUE resets the
> FAULT condition.   If the fault is still there then the /FAULT is
> brought low again. Etc...
>
> What do other systems (including commercial) do when a drive faults on 
> one axis.
>
> John
>
>
>
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