So if you missed an A or a B pulse from the encoder I think you should see
the position count go in the opposite direction for one count. Another
words, instead of a position sequence of 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7 you might see
instead 0,1,2,3,2,3, and in addition the time spent in 3 followed by 2
would each be twice as long.  So maybe if you can trigger on a non
monotonic position sequence you can capture the event.

John Figie

On Sun, Oct 2, 2022, 7:49 PM Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com> wrote:

> On 10/2/22 19:34, John Dammeyer wrote:
> > Oh boy does that bring back memories.
> > I started with the US Digital Encoders on the DC Servos.  According to
> the designer of the PIC upgrade board for the HP_UHU Servo drive the US
> Digital were crap and caused nothing but problems.
> > I switched to CUI and it appeared to be better.  Until one day circle
> milled inside a piece was off center.  See photo.
> >
> > That’s when I started doing what you did and discovered that at very
> slow speeds I could return to the same 0 position but faster moves lost
> steps.  The error happened in only one direction.
> >
> > Eventually I discovered that if I swapped the motor+encoder with the Y
> axis the problem moved to the Y so it wasn’t the HP_UHU drive.  Further
> research showed the X axis motor winding resistance was almost double that
> of the working Y axis motor.
> > It's possible I might have been able to fix the problem by doubling the
> current setting on the motor.  They were bought at the same time and were
> supposed to be identical.
> >
> > I don't know why the HP_UHU servo drive didn't catch the position loss.
> Like yours, the encoder signals looked nice.    The CUI encoders seem to be
> high
> >
> > One other point.  I switched to the Bergerda AC Servo drives which to
> date have been great.  Talking to Donald Chen the sales guy at Bergerda he
> mentioned that their encoders are Japanese and more expensive than ones
> used on a lot of their competitors.  After that conversation I took one
> apart and checked part numbers.  Sure enough, Japanese design made in China.
> >
> > So try different encoders.
>
> Yes, I did see some really strange signals on the scope
> before. I tore the whole motor/encoder set apart and cleaned
> the inside of the encoder.  But, optical components in the
> encoder are held in place with glue, 39 year old glue!  I'm
> having doubts that everything is still properly aligned in
> there.
>
> So, I'm leaning toward replacing the encoders with newer
> high-end encoders with higher line count.  But, that will
> require machining adapter plates and making sure the
> encoders are well-centered.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jon
>
>
>
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