I have used clonezilla and DD for both back up and restore. Some where I have 
an interactive bash scripted I wrote for using DD. In the past when going from 
a small drive to a new larger drive the most reliable way I found was to use DD 
to clone and move the data and the use gparted to expand the partitions. Not 
the most elegant solution but has worked for me in the past. Just a thought 
might be worth looking at.

On May 10, 2024 9:49:31 a.m. PDT, gene heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote:
>On 5/10/24 11:25, Chris Albertson wrote:
>> Rsync will copy data at the file system level.    I think the OP wants to 
>> copy the partition tables and boot sector.    But rsync can copy across a 
>> network and is a decent way to make a backup of your data.
>> 
>> Clonzilla loks like it can work.  I’ve always used “dd” because it is a two 
>> letter command and very easy to rember the exact spelling, and it just 
>> works.    Clonzilla might be better for people who find it hard to type in 
>> long complex commands like “dd” and prefer a menu-based system.
>
>All good advice. Choose your favorite.  The one I miss is the one that can 
>take an arm64 install, with all the additions to do a job, and back it up over 
>the network to a file that only the total used on that arm64 system. one that 
>can then be copied to a fresh u-sd card of much greater capacity, and which 
>will then on first boot, expand the partitions to use all of the new u-sd 
>cards capacity. I've been using 64G cards and had had no losses. 16G cards are 
>big enough but have a lifetime of around a year. I have some 128G I'll use for 
>the next install.
>
>The theory is, the more surplus capacity the card has, the better the cards 
>own software can maintain it. Power usage is about 25 watts total for the pi 
>and nonitor when the lathe is powered down, so that rpi4 is never turned off, 
>it even has a small ups that holds it up well while the kohler 20kw is 
>starting, a black time of around 8 seconds.
>So I'm looking for a dd like command that will do that over my local network. 
>cd / && sudo du -h says there is 6.2G in actual use. But there is a 256G 
>buildbot drive not currently mounted but about 70% full, so that total would 
>be considerably more.
>
>So what utility can make me a bootable image thats only 6.5G that I can store 
>here, dd to a new card that will boot that pi and expand the file system? And 
>come up capable of running linuxcnc with all the stuff I've written in the 
>last decade. That is the $64 question.  That seems like the ideal backup 
>system for all the architectures here.  And 1, 2T SSD could hold it all.
>
>>> On May 10, 2024, at 4:03 AM, gene heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 5/10/24 06:11, andrew beck wrote:
>>>> hey everyone
>>>> a bit off topic here
>>>> i have my main laptop that i want to clone the hard drive on it for a
>>>> identical laptop for a backup
>>>> this is used for running the linuxcnc machines and programming drawing etc
>>>> anyway just want to know what software people prefer for disk cloning i
>>>> have never done it before and i'm sure someone on here is a expert on it
>>>> cheers
>>>> andrew
>>> rsync can do that but please read the man page carefully. It can bite you 
>>> just as easily as it can help you.  I use it, but will not call myself an 
>>> expert.
>>> 
>>> Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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