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Hi Susan and all,
Thanks for your responses, and I love this exciting list of works that
Susan offers, alongside others! Many thanks to Davin, Babak, and Murat
for your sharing of poetics, and resources. I'm interested in discussing
further, the emphasis on form/interface as (robopoetics) and cinema. I
also loved teaching Larissa Lai's Automaton Biographies, and it does
pair splendidly with Blade Runner! Brian Kim Stefan's work is always
exciting and generative to me, along with other writing on Electronic
Poetry, such as New Media Poetics etc.
I am also interested in whether you can speak to your work on Eduardo
Kac, and the bio in robo? That intersection is very exciting to me, and
enjoyed engaged with your writing on Kac.
In terms of cinema, I taught a Fembot in Cinema course twice, and while
I didn't include a lot of poetry, students were assigned patron robot
artists and poets. The films we watched, Metropolis, Her, Ex-Machina,
and Blade Runner, all embodied a poetics, but different of course, from
poetry. So Im interested in what is similiar or different in terms of
pedagogy when teaching this work.
What struck me was the literature courses I taught on robots, and the
cinema courses both had a kind of excitement, not only from me, but from
the students. Also a sensibility for those interested in robot poetics..
I think perhaps then, perhaps the science fictional must enter the
conversation, and the pedagogical possibilities of SF when introduced
into the classroom. By nature, robots seem to open up another dimension
of learning for students, to think beyond the binary constructions of
identity, which to me, feel pedagogically purposeful. Perhaps also to
think about the future. It's something I've observed in these courses of
primarily literature, and the other cinema.
I also wonder, is there something particular about robots within poetry?
Perhaps it goes back to thinking of the genre of science fiction poetry?
And how do we tease out electronic literature, as certainly machine
poetics, but may not include robots? I think about the Young Hae Change
Heavy Industries:
http://www.yhchang.com/THE_STRUGGLE_DANCE_VERSION.html
http://www.yhchang.com/CUNNILINGUS_IN_NORTH_KOREA.html
Certainly electronic literature, and new media art, but may not include
robots? It is interesting to think of the grounding work that should
happen to help students prepare when encountering electronic
literature/new media art, and poetry of robots, or robopoetics...
I wonder if we think about the grounding work one often does to prepare
students in their engagement with these "texts," or not?
"And there is the short film for the lyrics of "Many Moons,'" set amid
an updated slave auction,
where Janelle Monae presses a button at her neck to change the skin
color of her android character. Studying robot poetics and robot
subjectivity becomes a way of talking about fights for civil rights,
human rights--and the interpretation of documents from the Declaration
of Independence to the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child."
I also love that you, bring up "Many Moons," and how Monae utilizes the
cyborg in powerful ways around Black racialization and subjectivity,
which leads us into thinking about gender too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHgbzNHVg0c
It leads me into thinking about the pedagogical interventions of
teaching about robots, in the context of civil rights and equality. Do
others find this a generative pedagogical intervention as well? Also,
for those actively creating, another question: when was your first time
writing forms of robopoetics, how did it happen?
best,
Margaret
On 2017-05-02 12:20, VANDERBORG, SUSAN VANDERBORG wrote:
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A definition is challenging! Terms such as robot poetry, cyborg
poetry, or machine writing might potentially include a huge variety of
poetic practices: speculative poems about robots, poetic alterations
or palimpsests from texts in robotics, code poetry, hypertext poetry,
poetry produced via search engines (such as Darren Wershler and Bill
Kennedy's _apostrophe_) and other digital poetry experiments. Poems
using email or tweets. Poems that reenvision collaboration between
programmers and poets.
There is already a rich scholarly tradition for many of these
robopoetics--_Fashionable Noise,_ _New Media Poetics_, _Digital
Poetics_, _Prehistoric Digital Poetry_, and Hayles's _Electronic
Literature_ and _Writing Machines_, and essays by John Cayley, Talan
Memmott, Stephanie Strickland, Ian Hatcher, Florian Cramer, Matt
Applegate, Steve Tomasula, and others, invaluable for teaching
digital, code, and machine poetics in a special topics seminar I'd
like to propose. Matthew Kirschenbaum's thoughtful "Machine Visions"
details texts whose styles truly enact Haraway's idea of cyborg
writing; Gregory Betts, too, discusses cyborg poetics in his article
"I Object," and Christian Bok's "The Piecemeal Bard Is Deconstructed"
traces "robopoetics" to its roots in RACTER algorithms.
Increasingly, robopoetics doesn't only reflect a world saturated with
technology but a forum where print and digital cultures interact
productively. In "Noise in the Channel," Wershler talks about
prose-poetic print books, including Drucker’s _The Word Made Flesh_,
whose page layouts anticipate digital formats. _Writing Machines_ also
juxtaposes experimental artists' books and digital poetry.
I've enjoyed teaching texts from Shelley Jackson's _Patchwork Girl _to
Brian Kim Stefans's _The Dreamlife of Letters_ and Jason Nelson's
_Game Game Game and Again Game_ in grad and undergrad poetry or
postmodernism classes; they raise provocative discussions about what
constitutes a book or a poetic collage. But I've taught robopoetics
most frequently in an undergrad literature survey class called
"American Cyborgs." Larissa Lai's "rachel" poems in _Automaton
Biographies_ pair magnificently with both _Blade Runner_ and Haraway,
Susan Slaviero's "Consider the Dangers of Reconstructing Your Wife as
a Cyborg" humorously (and menacingly) complements our cyborgs and
gender unit, and Margaret Rhee's ": Trace" from _Radio Heart_
introduces "Race," in the title's wordplay, as a social construction
already-already present even when it hasn't been "programmed yet." The
"robot" in her book's subtitle pays homage to Asimov stories in which
robotic identity is linked to race and discrimination such as
"Bicentennial Man" and "Segregationist." And there is the short film
for the lyrics of "Many Moons,'" set amid an updated slave auction,
where Janelle Monae presses a button at her neck to change the skin
color of her android character. Studying robot poetics and robot
subjectivity becomes a way of talking about fights for civil rights,
human rights--and the interpretation of documents from the Declaration
of Independence to the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child.
I'm very eager to hear how others in the forum have taught any form of
robopoetics, and in what contexts, or with what results...
Best,
-Susan
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University of Oregon
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