..on Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 12:23:18PM +0100, Simon Biggs wrote: > Is the screen thus a sub-set of the family of mirrors or mirrors a sub-set > of screens or neither?
A difficult question. I would say that Mirrors belong to the set of Screens only if we consider that we write to mirrors, as an inset plane of representation. A physicist would say it is the world that writes to mirrors before we ever can. That light is faster than intent, and thus art. A rehearsing actor may consider otherwise.. If however all culture is mass reflection - in the critical and social sense - then all screens do belong to the set of mirrors, yes. Chairs! Julian > > > From: Julian Oliver <jul...@julianoliver.com> > Reply-To: soft_skinned_space <empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au> > Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 12:57:02 +0200 > To: soft_skinned_space <empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au> > Cc: soft_skinned_space <emp...@gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au> > Subject: Re: [-empyre-] First Theme and Guests - the Thickness of the Screen > > ..on Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 09:56:52AM +0000, Pall Thayer wrote: > > Actually, I agree also that media are not necessarily material. I was > attempting to avoid > > addressing this altogether for now because I wanted to clear up other things > regarding > > physical media specifically. As Jose Carlos mentions, in the case of cinema, > the theater itself > > is a medium. But it's not just the physical properties of the theater. It's > the "aura" of the > > theater as well. The same thing can be said of the gallery. There is a > distinct immaterial > > character that has a huge impact on our mediated experience and we can > > really > sense this > > when we see art in non-gallery settings. It's a very different experience. > > Yes, taking a Phenomenological angle on this, from Plato's synthesising > plane of > cognition onward, there is no medium only mediation. All that can be > discussed > falls purely within the realm of experience, of impressing effects. To > follow > this trope is to place all Screens somewhere along the vector between > corporeal > mechanism and the sense-making apparatus of a person. > > SciFi references to screens in a holographic context, or in the case of > Augmented Reality, could be seen as the literal manifestation of this idea: > the > screen is any inset plane of representation to which content can be > dynamically > written. > > Why is a mirror not considered a screen? A mirror is the world writing to > itself. > > That we discuss the screen's depths, a projecting plane comprised of > material > parts, is evidence that for us the screen is already fictitious: here we are > /giving/ it materiality, not taking it away! > > Cheers, > > Julian > > > > > > > > > > From: Pall Thayer <pa...@pallit.lhi.is> > > > Reply-To: soft_skinned_space <empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au> > > > Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 01:18:43 +0000 > > > To: soft_skinned_space <emp...@gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au> > > > Subject: Re: [-empyre-] First Theme and Guests - the Thickness of the > > > Screen > > > > > > Literature is not a medium. The medium of literature is > > > print. Film is a medium but only if you're talking about the film that > > > you wind up on spools. The wider class of "film" or "cinema" is a > > > collection of various media. > > > > > > Simon Biggs > > > Research Professor > > > edinburgh college of art > > > s.bi...@eca.ac.uk > > > www.eca.ac.uk > > > www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ > > > > > > si...@littlepig.org.uk > > > www.littlepig.org.uk > > > AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, number > SC009201 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Pall Thayer > > artist/teacher > > http://www.this.is/pallit > > http://130.208.220.190 > > http://130.208.220.190/nuharm > > http://130.208.220.190/panse > > > > _______________________________________________ > > empyre forum > > empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au > > http://www.subtle.net/empyre > > -- > Julian Oliver > home: New Zealand > based: Madrid, Spain > currently: Madrid, Spain > about: http://julianoliver.com > _______________________________________________ > empyre forum > empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au > http://www.subtle.net/empyre > > > Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, number > SC009201 > > > _______________________________________________ > empyre forum > empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au > http://www.subtle.net/empyre -- Julian Oliver home: New Zealand based: Madrid, Spain currently: Madrid, Spain about: http://julianoliver.com _______________________________________________ empyre forum empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au http://www.subtle.net/empyre
