Hey Floh,

On my 2010 Macbook Pro with an NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M, none of the demos
load anything but black windows.  Here's the output:
http://pastie.org/8796408

Firefox 27.0.1.

Cheers,
Chad



On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Floh <[email protected]> wrote:

> FYI, I just updated the demos at http://www.flohofwoe.net/demos.html with
> VAO enabled, I'm not doing any testing though whether the extension is
> actually supported in the browser. Alon says he has problems on his machine
> (nothing rendered), I'll see if I can find out more tomorrow.
>
> -Floh.
>
> Am Montag, 24. Februar 2014 14:54:55 UTC+1 schrieb jj:
>>
>> The code was merged last week - and in the end we actually noticed that
>> we had to retain the VAO emulation path as well, so no features were
>> dropped. It should be possible to use VAOs both with and without GL
>> emulation, although the emulation path is not functionally perfect.
>>
>>    Jukka
>>
>>
>> 2014-02-24 15:44 GMT+02:00 Floh <[email protected]>:
>>
>> PS: clarification: "desktop version" means the actual native version for
>>> Windows and OSX, not the "desktop GL path" in emscripten. I'm currently not
>>> using VAO code in emscripten, so thumbs up from me :)
>>>
>>> -Floh.
>>>
>>> Am Montag, 24. Februar 2014 14:42:06 UTC+1 schrieb Floh:
>>>
>>>> Whoops, I was sick last week and didn't notice this :) My demos (
>>>> www.flohofwoe.net) use VAOs in the desktop-GL version. I'd love to use
>>>> them in emscripten too since it can reduce calls to GL drastically (if I
>>>> remember right I can replace 11 calls with a single VAO call). Would love
>>>> to use this in emscripten, especially if the code makes use of a WebGL VAO
>>>> extension.
>>>>
>>>> Even though VAOs don't seem to make much of a performance difference in
>>>> desktop GL it would be interesting to measure perf differences in WebGL,
>>>> because of the (I guess) higher overhead per GL call.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Floh.
>>>>
>>>> Am Montag, 17. Februar 2014 21:24:22 UTC+1 schrieb jj:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>
>>>>> Anthony Liot has been working on a pull request to add proper VAO
>>>>> support in Emscripten in this pull request: https://github.com/kr
>>>>> ipken/emscripten/pull/1817
>>>>>
>>>>> Before that PR (and before Firefox even supported VAOs), we had an
>>>>> emulation path implemented, which was not really that great or perfect, 
>>>>> but
>>>>> possibly actually worked in some codebases.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now when looking at Anthony's pull request and after having a chat
>>>>> with Alon some time ago, we thought that in case nobody's actually using
>>>>> that emulation path, we could just merge Anthony's PR in and drop the old
>>>>> VAO emulation altogether. Then the browsers that have real support for
>>>>> VAOs, would do so, and those that don't, would not even try to emulate,
>>>>> since the performance will be suboptimal compared to not using VAOs at 
>>>>> all.
>>>>>
>>>>> If someone is using that VAO emulation and cares about browser
>>>>> environments which don't have it, please let us know - of course we can
>>>>> preserve it if someone actually is using it. Otherwise we'll probably drop
>>>>> the VAO emulation path for good.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that this VAO emulation is a different thing than the existing
>>>>> desktop GL/fixed-pipeline GL emulation, which will not be changed here in
>>>>> any way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>    Jukka
>>>>>
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