I found some faint hints that Clang has -mdisable-tail-calls (see  
disable-tail-calls.c 
| searchcode 
<https://searchcode.com/file/307703938/src/llvm-project/clang/test/CodeGen/disable-tail-calls.c/>
 ) 
, so I figured I may try -menable-tail-calls. Not sure if that did 
anything, but I ended up with a very small difference (6 bytes) in file 
sizes for my FFmpeg build (42789880 vs 42789886 bytes). Not sure where that 
comes from. That being said, the aforementioned ~1% performance difference 
could indeed be noise. I'll do some more tests to see what's going on. I 
may have to disassemble the wasm binary to figure out if there really is 
anything as a result of the -menable-tail-calls flag. 



On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 4:49:26 PM UTC+10 [email protected] 
wrote:

> Hmm, I tried finding documentation on -menable-tail-call or an 
> implementation of it but couldn't, so then I tried using it to see if it 
> did anything. I built the in-tree sqlite benchmark at -O2 with no extra 
> flags, with -mtail-call, and with -menable-tail-call. The version built 
> with -mtail-call contained 53 instances of `return_call` or 
> `return_call_indirect` instructions, but the version with no flags and the 
> version with -menable-tail-call were identical. I also confirmed that 
> Emscripten does not warn or error out on unknown flags passed at link time, 
> so I can only conclude that -menable-tail-call is not a real flag. The 
> performance difference you saw must have been noise.
>
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 12:00 AM Soeren Balko <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Thomas - haven't run into any issues. There wasn't any measurable 
>> performance uplift when using -mtail-call though, which is probably 
>> because my workload (FFmpeg) may not use it much.  
>>
>> That being said, I previously played around with the -menable-tail-call  
>> linker flag. And unlike -mtail-call, it does two things: firstly, it 
>> does produce a small (~1%), but consistent performance uplift. At the same 
>> time, it doesn't seem to make use of the new WebAssembly opcodes (didn't 
>> require me to enable those in V8). Not sure what -menable-tail-call 
>> actually does, but it seems different from -mtail-call. Also, it cannot 
>> be used as a compiler flag, ie. only the linker will accept it.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Soeren
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 10:57:46 AM UTC+10 [email protected] 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Soeren,
>>>
>>> The compiler flag -mtail-call is what you want. This support has been in 
>>> upstream LLVM for a while, but it hasn't been used very much, so if you run 
>>> into bugs with it, please let us know!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 6:14 PM Soeren Balko <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was wondering about the state of WebAssembly tail call support in 
>>>> Emscripten. It's available as an experimental V8 feature in Chrome and 
>>>> will 
>>>> hopefully be mainstreamed in the not-too distant future.
>>>>
>>>> Couldn't find much information on how to build with tail call support 
>>>> in Emscripten, but I suspect that adding the -menable-tail-call linker 
>>>> flag does the trick? Or is there more to it?
>>>>
>>>> @Alon - can you please confirm?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>> Soeren
>>>>
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