IKEv2 has been designed for a different environment which already had
3DES deployed,  I'm not sure that this is the case with EAP-GPSK. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hannes Tschofenig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 11:32 AM
> To: Joseph Salowey (jsalowey)
> Cc: M. Vanderveen; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Emu] EAP-GPSK: Ciphersuites
> 
> Hi Joe,
> 
> we might want to ask ourself why IKEv2 guys have chosen the 
> indicated list of algorithms and why we decide to use different onces.
> 
> If we think that their list represents a problem we might 
> want to convince them to submit an updated version of RFC 4307.
> 
> Ciao
> Hannes
> 
> Joseph Salowey (jsalowey) schrieb:
> > Is the proposal to make 3DES mandatory and AES optional? 
> > It seems that we should be moving toward AES.  Since this is a new
> > method it may be better to make AES mandatory and 3DES optional.    
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Hannes Tschofenig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 2:20 AM
> >> To: M. Vanderveen
> >> Cc: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [Emu] EAP-GPSK: Ciphersuites
> >>
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> let us for a moment assume that RFC 4307 makes some reasonable 
> >> algorithm choices (we are talking about IKEv2 here). If we 
> take the 
> >> text and apply it to EAP-GPSK then we would produce something like:
> >>
> >> Conservative Choice:
> >> -----------------------
> >>
> >> (Integrity)
> >>        AUTH_HMAC_SHA1_96        2            [RFC2404]     
>        MUST
> >>
> >> (Encryption)
> >>        ENCR_3DES                3         [RFC2451]       MUST-
> >>
> >> (Key Derivation)
> >>        PRF_HMAC_SHA1       2          [RFC2104]    MUST
> >>
> >> (Note that there is no MUST for encryption algorithms specified in 
> >> RFC
> >> 4307.)
> >>
> >>
> >> Choice for the Future:
> >> -----------------------
> >>
> >> (Encryption)
> >>       ENCR_AES_CBC             12        [AES-CBC]       SHOULD+
> >>
> >> (Integrity)
> >>       AUTH_AES_XCBC_96         5         [AES-MAC]       SHOULD+
> >>
> >> (Key Derivation)
> >>        PRF_AES128_CBC      4          [AESPRF]     SHOULD+
> >>
> >> Does this sound like a terrible bad idea?
> >>
> >> Ciao
> >> Hannes
> >>
> >> M. Vanderveen schrieb:
> >>> Both are pretty popular. Why not list them both? As for
> >> which one to be
> >>> mandatory to implement, someone should to a search through
> >> other systems
> >>> (e.g. IEEE, IPSec) and see which one is most popular.
> >>>
> >>> */Hannes Tschofenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
> >>>
> >>>     Hi all,
> >>>
> >>>     the current version of the document
> >>>     
> >> 
> http://tools.ietf.org/wg/emu/draft-clancy-emu-eap-shared-secret-01.tx
> >> t
> >>>     still supports AES-EAX:
> >>>
> >>>     
> >> 
> +-----------+----+-------------+---------------+--------------------+
> >>>     | CSuite/ | KS | Encryption | Integrity | Key Derivation |
> >>>     | Specifier | | | | Function |
> >>>     
> >> 
> +-----------+----+-------------+---------------+--------------------+
> >>>     | 0x000001 | 16 | AES-EAX-128 | AES-CMAC-128 | GKDF-128 |
> >>>     
> >> 
> +-----------+----+-------------+---------------+--------------------+
> >>>     At the IETF#66 EMU meeting AES CCM was suggested.
> >>>
> >>>     Later, it got the impression that AES-CBC was more
> >> appreciated. Should
> >>>     we update the draft with AES-CBC?
> >>>
> >>>     Ciao
> >>>     Hannes
> >>>
> >>>
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