Hi Joe,

On Aug 28, 2006, at 4:10 PM, Joseph Salowey ((jsalowey)) wrote:

Hi Lakshminath,

I have not seen a lot of support for use of CCM/EAX with or without the
optimization of eliminating additional MAC algorithm on the list.  I
think it would be useful to understand what the impact is on the current specification to support ciphers that provide both integrity protection
and encryption without requiring additional MAC algorithms.  Would the
current spec need to be modified to support this?  If so, what
modifications are needed?


the simplest way to add an AEAD mode would be to replace Sections 6.1.1 and 6.1.2 with something like the following adaptation:

<new>
6.1.1.  Encryption and Integrity

   With this ciphersuite all cryptography is built around a single
   cryptographic primitive, AES-128.  Within the protected data frames,
AES-128 is used in EAX mode of operation. Ciphersuite 1 makes use of the EAX mode of encryption. EAX is an Authenticated-Encryption- With-
   Associated-Data (AEAD) scheme.  It has as input a plaintext M, a
   header H and a nonce N and is keyed with a key K. The idea is that
   both M and H are integrity protected, but only M is encrypted.
Therefore, EAX encryption returns the ciphertext, which consists of H
   and encrypted M, and a cryptographic checksum Tag T.

   We use EAX with a 128-bit nonce that is generated uniformly at
   random for each invocation of the encryption function.  The nonce
   is returned by the Encrypt operation, along with the ciphertext and
   tag, in that order.  During the decryption operation, these fields
   are parsed; since N and T have fixed widths, this procedure is
   simple.  The decryption uses N and T in its processing, then
   returns the plaintext.  Symbolically,

   N || C || T = EAX.Encrypt (K; N, H, M)

             M = EAX.Decrypt (K; N, H, C, T).

   The use of EAX in GPSK is defined by the mapping of the protocol
   messages to its inputs, as follows.

     Message GPSK-2:
       o M is the Value of PD_Payload_1
       o H is the Value of SEC_SK

     Message GPSK-3:
       o M is the Value of PD_Payload_2
       o H is the Value of SEC_SK

     Message GPSK-4:
       o M is the Value of PD_Payload_3
       o H is the Value of SEC_SK

</new>

Here I've tried to minimize changes from the existing document.

David




Thanks,
Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Lakshminath Dondeti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 12:23 AM
To: Hannes Tschofenig; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Emu] EAP-GPSK: Ciphersuites

At the expense of generating some confusion, here is my take on this:

The objection is to having to carry multiple integrity
checksums in GPSK, if we used the combined mode *and* an
integrity algorithm.

I think CCM is fine for instance, the only catch is that we
need to make sure and define AAD for CCM carefully to include
appropriate data into the integrity checksum calculation.
So, once we define CCM as the mode, we shouldn't need
AES-CMAC-128 if encryption is being used.

I would suggest using CCM and specifying the use of it fully
so it can be used without misunderstandings.  If you want me
to put some time into writing that up, let me know.

cheers,
Lakshminath

At 10:55 PM 8/20/2006, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
Hi all,

the current version of the document
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/emu/draft-clancy-emu-eap-shared-secr
et-01.txt
still supports AES-EAX:


+-----------+----+-------------+---------------+--------------------+
   | CSuite/   | KS | Encryption  | Integrity     | Key
Derivation     |
   | Specifier |    |             |               |
Function           |

+-----------+----+-------------+---------------+--------------------+
   | 0x000001  | 16 | AES-EAX-128 | AES-CMAC-128  |
GKDF-128           |


+-----------+----+-------------+---------------+--------------------+

At the IETF#66 EMU meeting AES CCM was suggested.

Later, it got the impression that AES-CBC was more appreciated.
Should we update the draft with AES-CBC?

Ciao
Hannes


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