> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bernard Aboba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 8:12 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Emu] RFC4279 support in draft-simon-emu-rfc2716bis?
> 
> Hannes Tschofenig said:
> 
> >We discussed this already several times and this lead me to 
> work on a 
> >draft together with Thomas Otto:
> >
> >http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-otto-emu-eap-tls-psk-02.txt
> 
> Which begs the question:  what is the WG doing with this draft?
> 

[Joe] The draft is not currently a working group item.  The pre-shared
key mechanism charter item is covered by EAP-GPSK.  There is a charter
item for enhanced EAP-TLS which could support TLS-PSK and other
enhancements.  

> >From where I sit, it seems quite likely that EAP-TLS-PSK, if 
> completed, 
> >will
> be deployed.  When TLS 1.2 is done, this method could 
> eventually benefit from KDF negotiation, and should meet the 
> criteria for FIPS 140-2 certification.  Given the TLS code 
> base in embedded systems, it should not be hard to add 
> support for EAP-TLS-PSK within embedded devices.
> 
[Joe] The KDF needs to be looked at, but I do not think it is
necessarily a show stopper, it does provide KDF agility.  Reports from
people who implemented EAP-GPSK indicate that it was simple to
implement. I have heard push back from embedded system implementers on
EAP-TLS stating that it is too complex, this may be a result of
certificate support I am not sure. 

> I my doubts about EAP-GPSK on several of these dimensions.
> 
> 
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