> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bernard Aboba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:00 PM
> To: Joseph Salowey (jsalowey); [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Emu] RFC4279 support in draft-simon-emu-rfc2716bis?
> 
> >[Joe] The KDF needs to be looked at, but I do not think it is 
> >necessarily a show stopper, it does provide KDF agility.  
> Reports from 
> >people who implemented EAP-GPSK indicate that it was simple to 
> >implement. I have heard push back from embedded system 
> implementers on 
> >EAP-TLS stating that it is too complex, this may be a result of 
> >certificate support I am not sure.
> 
> In my experience, adding certificate support dramatically 
> increases footprint.  For example, as I recall IKEv1/IPsec 
> with AES CBC/HMAC-SHA1 is around 250 KB or so if we're just 
> talking about pre-shared key authentication but if you add 
> certificate support that is another 750 KB, which will be too 
> big for some applications.
> 
> I would think that the same logic applies to EAP-TLS-PSK.  Of 
> course that would require a stripped down implemenation of 
> TLS that only supported TLS-PSK, no certificates.  I guess 
> that doesn't exist yet?  If you had to pull in all of say, 
> Open SSL plus add TLS-PSK support, that would almost 
> certainly make it too large for many embedded applications.
> 
[Joe] Yes OpenSSL is a commonly used toolkit, however I don't think one
of its design goals is a small footprint. 

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