Hi Alan

some first thoughts

Section 3.1, first bullet point on automation: I would mention "zero touch". That should be the goal from a user's perspective.

Section 3.1, fifth (sixth) bullet point on mutual exchange of identities: How is that supposed to work? Don't get me wrong, I understand the rationale. But that requires a user to understand if the identity of the server is correct. I don't think that is a safe assumption.

Section 3.1, last bullet point: I agree on the technical rationale. However that must be dead simple to verify from a user perspective

General comment: EAP configuration and implementation is certainly one issue, but the whole certificate stuff is terrible from a user's point of view. We could try to solve it in this draft, but it certainly touches a lot of topics.

Will keep reading...

best regards
Carolin

On 7/12/21 7:57 PM, Alan DeKok wrote:
  I've submitted an "EAP usability" document.  The title could perhaps be better.

  It gives guidelines, requirements, and practices for making it easier to use TLS-based EAP methods.

  I've asked the chairs for time at the next IETF to discuss this.  Until then, any feedback / comments are welcome.

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Name:draft-dekok-emu-eap-usability
Revision:00
Title:EAP Usability
Document date:2021-07-12
Group:Individual Submission
Pages:58
URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-dekok-emu-eap-usability-00.txt <https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-dekok-emu-eap-usability-00.txt> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dekok-emu-eap-usability/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dekok-emu-eap-usability/> Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-dekok-emu-eap-usability <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-dekok-emu-eap-usability>


Abstract:
  This document defines methods which enable simpler deployment of TLS-
  based EAP methods.  It defines new certificate fields, and uses
  existing certificate fields in order describe new methods for
  bootstrapping security.  The methods defined here change TLS-based
  EAP supplicant configuration from a complex and insecure process to
  one that is automated, and is essentially trivial.  These methods are
  still, however, compatible with existing standards and practices.




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