Hi all, How about this idea? This way we can get Enigma easily ported.
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/1938/ Greets, Alexandros 2009/3/24 kurt hofmann <kur...@gmx.ch> > Hello Andreas > > Sorry, I did not mean to insult you. > > But let's get back to what I originally wanted to say: > > 1. Enigma is a great game > 2. The iPhone is a cool device with millions of users > > I am convinced that these two would fit together magically. > > What you are making out of this discussion is – from the point of view of > in iPhone user – just ridiculous. > > All I want is a cool game on a cool device. > As are probably quite a few of the millions of iPhone users. > > I am not at all interested in political discussions. > > > kurt > > > On 24.03.2009, at 00:20, Andreas Lochmann wrote: > > >> Hi Kurt, >> >> kurt hofmann schrieb: >> >>> What you are writing here is complete rubish. >>> There are thousands of free apps in the apple app store. >>> And not one of them payed a cent to publish it. >>> Secondly anyone publishing an app on the app store remains authority of >>> the software. >>> You should not write things that are simply not true. >>> Please try to base your arguments on facts. >>> I can't beleive you are basin your arguments on a stupid page that >>> publishes nonsense as can be proved. >>> >> >> Well, first of all, there's no cause to become insulting. >> Even in a flame war. >> (Though it might make things more boring.) >> >> Please tak a look at this page: >>> http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/distribute.html >>> And read aloud: >>> «No charge for free apps» >>> >> >> I'm indeed confused by Ingo's findings. Seems somehow >> inconclusive to me. >> >> However, I was able to find it somewhere else on macworld, >> which brings us back to facts: >> >> http://www.macworld.com/article/132376/2008/03/liveupdate.html >> >> Here we find an interview with Mr Jobs, about a year ago: >> >> "The App Store is going to be the exclusive way to distribute >> iPhone applications," Jobs says. "We think we've got a great >> business deal for developers." Developer picks the price. >> Developer gets 70% of the revenues right off the top. We >> keep 30%. No credit card fees for developers. No hosting fees. >> No marketing fees. "And it's paid monthly," Jobs says. "This >> is the best deal going to distribute applications in the >> mobile space." >> >> And there is no charge for free apps. >> >> Aha, we get closer. So, yes, the blog entry on FSF seems to >> be wrong, when it says "developers must pay a tax to Apple". >> Maybe it's outdated, but at least now it seems wrong. >> But this is not the point when it comes to "free software". >> And here we have to distinguish (once again) between >> "free apps" like in "free beer", and "free apps" like in >> "free speech". When we at Enigma, or the people at FSF speak >> of "free apps", we mean the latter. >> >> When Mr Jobs says >> >> "The App Store is going to be the exclusive way to distribute >> iPhone applications" >> >> this means: He wants to control the software. From a legal >> point of view, we'd give up our rights to distribute the code >> through other means than App Store -- and we end up with unfree >> code. "Unfree", because it is bound by a single instance, by >> Apple, who then is in exclusive control of the software, >> regardless of what we developers wanted. >> There might not be a high tax -- but a high price. >> >> I hope you understand our considerations. It's not that easy to >> grasp the concept of freedom of software, but nevertheless it's >> a very important concept in our Digital Rights Modern Times. >> >> Andreas >> >> P.S.: Thanks Ingo and Erich for further answers, but this >> mail was at me directly, I got it three times in different >> revisions! ;-) >> >> >> On 23.03.2009, at 21:15, Andreas Lochmann wrote: >>> >>>> "iPhone completely blocks free software. Developers must pay a tax to >>>> Apple, who becomes the sole authority over what can and can't be on >>>> everyone's phones." >>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Enigma-devel mailing list >>> Enigma-devel@nongnu.org >>> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/enigma-devel >>> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Enigma-devel mailing list > Enigma-devel@nongnu.org > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/enigma-devel >
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