-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 29.03.15 17:53, [email protected] wrote: > Hi! > > Enigmail 1.8.1 causes me and users I support some pain at the > moment. > > I don't want to ignite any (probably futile) usability > discussions. Still I would like to suggest a few things: > > > 1. When you introduce a new toolbar, make sure, it's not hidden > after the upgrade. (You might also consider moving the two > important buttons to the main toolbar ans leave the rest on the > enigmail toolbar. IMHO it's ok to do this without asking for > permission.)
There is no way the toolbar could be hidden after the upgrade, unless localstore.rdf is broken (which is a *very* old Mozilla bug, for which there is no workaround). You cannot even delete localstore.rdf while Thunderbird is started. > 2. Make the "protocol" menu entry less ambiguous. When it says > "protocol: inline PGP", does that mean I will use inline PGP now - > or only after I clicked on the entry? It's not clear because menu > entries are not good for toggling. (Ideas: 1. Change the text to > something precise like "message will be sent as..." 2. Put a > tickmark in front of it. 3. Probably best solution: Create a > submenu with all available options. No extra clicks here.) Fixed in v1.9. > 3. Passphrase caching without external tools. Seriously. > > Non-functional passhprase caching frustrates users like nothing > else. > > Yes, there is pgp-agent. Yes, there is this gnome-keyring-thingy. > The latter makes KDE-users mad, is most probably rarely in use > anyway, and causes a lot of pain whenever it doesn't work. The > first needs configuration in at least one textfile in a hidden > subdirectory. (And possibly deactivation of the latter, which might > kill it after it started up with the X11-session. Haven't figured > it out yet.) > > Yes, in the linux world you want to leave work and decisions to > tools which were made for that very kind of work or decision. Love > the idea. > > On the other hand you want *some* things to "just work". I belive, > e-mail encryption belongs to these kinds of things. > > So, in my opinion, there should be a setting to cache the > passphrase in enigmail and ignore any passphrase manager. It should > be set by default. (Of course there will be complaints about this, > because this is not the "right" way...) GnuPG 2.x does not and will not work without a tool that implements the functionality of gpg-agent. It's not possible to not use an external tool. That's not the decision of Enigmail, but of GnuPG. In theory, Enigmail could implement its own gpg-agent, but that would most likely be even worse in GnuPG 2.1 because gpg-agent now does a lot more than just passphrase handling. Even though I'd like to do that, it's simply impossible to fix broken installations from within Enigmail. There are at least 4 different tools in various versions that somehow implement gpg-agent functionality and/or interfere with gpg-agent. I know of gnome-keyring, seahorse-agent, KDE wallet manager, mate-keyring-daemon, and I wouldn't be surprised if there were more. About the same is true for pinentry. - -Patrick -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJVGCTNAAoJENsRh7ndX2k77KEP/jcT6Se0R6l/XfaJelWmFcLw IqhVV5QnTwt2DoBUr8ndDFS5Iys4SRZyCjFWKZHMNxN2Mwy8kX1rl9hnFfAo5S1V 0o/vXz4sQT+bO4N3/qVXnsY0pQwQzuJzrWu0mHL6uNLUz/pDTq8Ikn4OrSUs8qnE 6l9HitS45UQ7PN+Yr13TkgLpxQWfa+MTNwhrypELS+oZPXs3+0T9kX00Zu347rXo sWTGbpBDT6erIsy18JGfVghq8MQR5RNIhTV5zNWiMajSQD5zJrvETUdx424muvIw /jOXTltu+deUFyQM2EarxQZ6Fmx0cmCTwrcLKiaXy7vHZt5B6broVnaiBhTHxaTN 0B7p4KC67zBL6z08lShmFv8kj6DlgSTHTIIKgE98rw3rg5A+Yozh3Xp/318+/ruy HkXDC+kTXJJxGl6W03Av0jC3Do+3hm6AUql/s22b1ogPLQ5Y5dPZYTPC61/poqM+ A1QZHc4rgiBYnWmxGy95gp2GqDztIsiVsh2xfq4kHhujFCOaNSrxTUbyPq5kzw5E 5xraSkXgbCsJKo9ZRzvcra4j3posVUXlaRWG0hUnkWrABqdtGOUpJr/RWGg3hebm mTwBzjm3ef/7N5C7ojVGmTbl4U5vGyeLH+t3wbXX0Uy/1gh+pnl7RYZruHtghjcG Il0f3l7489s7+G76SDaB =91PW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ enigmail-users mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
