Hey everyone,

I certainly don't think Enigmail should switch or that standards need to be
changed.
At the start of the year, I read that the NSA (which is doing serious R&D
in this field) recommended taking post-quantum computing more seriously:
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/02/more_details_on_2.html

I've been reading up on this, but yet to find people integrating these
tools into real applications. As someone who's not a computer scientist or
cryptographer, the best way that I can help is adapt the Enigmail code to
generate e-mail signatures from one of these systems.  While that's
underway, I started writing up recommendations for how to set your browser
to use the only quantum-secure system available on SSL/TLS: AES-256.  (As
secure as AES-128 on classical computers today)

The name for this experiment is "Annealmail" after quantum annealing.
Please use GitHub for any further comments:
https://github.com/mapmeld/annealmail

Regards,
Nick Doiron

On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Robert J. Hansen <[email protected]>
wrote:

> > I can see a use case you seem to have neglected.
>
> Not neglected: considered and rejected.
>
> First: Arthur C. Clarke famously observed that advanced technology
> cannot be differentiated from magic, and it's true.  Just like we refuse
> to defend against shamans, psychic intruders, and the restless ghost of
> Alan Mathison Turing, we also refuse to defend against quantum
> computing.  Because it's the same thing.  Magic.  And we're not going to
> even think of appeasing cargo-cultists who think we ought shake a
> feather-covered stick to appease the gods of Quantum.  This should not
> be read as a slam on the people who are working in the field.  They're
> doing great work trying to make the future real.  But for right now,
> it's completely unreasonable to expect practical systems to defend
> against quantum computation.
>
> Further: Enigmail provides OpenPGP support.  QRC isn't in RFC4880 or any
> of the supporting RFCs.  One might wonder *why* the Working Groups
> haven't incorporated QRC into the supporting RFCs... or one might
> suspect they're using the same reasoning we are.  The Working Groups are
> closely following QRC, and as soon as it becomes an issue for practical
> systems to worry about, they'll take appropriate steps.
>
> Finally: the letters "PGP" in "OpenPGP" stand for "Pretty Good Privacy".
>  And that's what Enigmail provides... a *pretty good* level of privacy.
> You're expecting a level of privacy that not even the United States
> government requires for information classified Top Secret.  (They're
> happy with elliptical-curve keys in the 500-bit range, which are even
> more susceptible to quantum computing than a 1024-bit RSA key!)
>
> Be reasonable.  We're not promising anything beyond a "pretty good"
> level of privacy, and we're definitely not going to start doing rain
> dances to appease the gods of quantum.
>
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