Elias Pouloyiannis writes:
 > > > > (AFAIK essence will become the file manager)
 > >
 > >  "How many times!?" :-S  There is no "essence."
 > >
 > again... that's not my personal opinion. it was only something i read on 
 >  http://e1x.codewordt.co.uk
 > on a post that as i understood was refering to the essence cvs module... 

   Not your fault, it's just that I've been through that particular
   conversation a million times. : )  First, there was going to be
   a file-manager in e17.  Then, there was going to be a SPLIT --
   e17 == WM, essence == FM (re-using some of the (preliminary) work
   that had gone into the previous "unified" e17).  For several reasons,
   essence never came into being; evidence did *instead* (as in, I
   inherited the essence concept from tillsan and called the implementation
   evidence).  It seemed like a funny idea at the time (also, if it
   hadn't worked, people would have come to blame me rather than till),
   but the resulting confusion (on top of the general e17 confusion)
   has proved to be a major pain in the bum.

   Finally, to locate efm in the whole she-bang:
   efm was a design-study for some technologies that have now been
   incorporated in cleaned-up form in the e17-libraries.
   ("See evidence for a file-manager that uses these libraries and may
    be themed to look and feel like efm -- up to the type-buffer!")



 > correct. multi-windowing also addresses many other isues (like what 
 > happens if you try to view a directory that is being viewed and other)

   Control-{Double-click/left} will open a folder in a new window
   (alternately, ^D will duplicate the current view, a la Konqueror),
   that should all be wrapped up.  The actual issue I was referring
   to is that sometimes *closing* such a view bombs out, which is
   rather ridiculous.  That's the one I need to hunt down one of these
   days, otherwise, the multi-views should be functional.



 > still it would resemble that good-old-loving amiga feel that efm gave 
 > me.... well i can allways wait for the stable release..

   Shouldn't be *that* far away (I hope : ).



 > (hey...come to think of it... will evidence create desktop icons?)

  "Sort of."  As per above, I'm not a big fan myself, but I do realize
   there's a demand for these things, so it will be supported.  On one
   hand, it can do things the way the e17 code did it -- just put up
   a screen-size view (with no scrollbars).  Also, I was considering
   doing a quick hack on idesk that would take a directory as a
   parameter, but that seems pretty silly in retrospective.  There will
   be more exciting options on this however, but before I can work that
   in, we need to decide on e17/e18 -- will it *only* be a window manager,
   and leave the whole desktop/background affair to a dedicated handler
   (like enstrom)?  I find that course desirable, but for that, we first
   need to have a working IPC abstraction layer, but then, raster seems
   on the case.
   Short version:  basic support now, ultimate excitement later.  : )

   regards,
   Azundris


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