On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 19:07:31 +0300 Ehud Shabtai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> You're right this problem shows only for some applications such as
> firefox, qgis, eclair.
> There are actually two annoying problems. The first is that since they
> remember their geometry, when I try to open them on one screen, they
> may open on another. The second problem is the one with being lost
> (when not using dual screens).

yeah - but this woudl be what i call "badly written apps" they shoudl accoutnf
or screen res/size changes while they may nto be runing and adjust if they
insist on remembering their own stuff, if not, they should leave the wm to it
whihc likely knwos a lot better than the app ever will. i know app writes dont
want to dothis as there are wm's that are dumb and dont do things well. e17
isnt that gerat yet either. i'd like it to auto-rememebr stuff like this for
you as much as possible. right now its a manual rememebr process to set it up.
it's mroe of a test to see what i need to do to the remember stuff to make ti
work best.

> Can't E just relocate the lost window instead of putting it in the
> lost window list?

there are valid reasons an app could want a window off screen. i am sure later
we can add options like "NEVER allow a window to be off screen by app request"
etc. but for now we're obeying an apps requests -0 no matter how stupid they
are. it's a good way to hilight stupid apps that need fixing too. either they
need to stop remembering their own geometry and leave it to the wm entirely, or
get a lot smarter at doing it themsleves instead of doing it badly.

> Thanks,
> 
> Ehud.
> 
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