My problem is that those branches won't be in sync with master.
This will lead to merge conflicts. I am these days reviewing a lot of work
done in dev branches or phab patches and it almost never applies nicely on
master, because the interfaces change.
A lot of work is done in branches (model, c#, eo widgets, ...) and those
tasks are both long term and involve more than a single dev. They require
constant rebasing on master or the final rebase will be a nightmare. Right
now this is done by people pulling other devs branches, and then rebasing
onto master in their own dev branch.

Rewriting history on a shared branch has major downsides too. No problem
for dev branches as there's only one committer, but anyone pulling a
rewritten history will endure pain.

Honestly I don't have a solution.

It's a move in the right direction, but I'm not sure it's solving the
problems I'm facing :(



2017-11-22 3:43 GMT+09:00 Tom Hacohen <t...@stosb.com>:

> Only problem would be the commit emails being resent (because
> technically they are new commits). One can mitigate that by first
> pushing them to a dev branch. Commits there have first been there
> don't trigger emails.
>
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 6:40 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz
> <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In the issue where a significant rebase against master is necessary then
> > it's trivial enough to either push to a new feature branch or delete and
> > re-create the existing branch.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 1:36 PM Tom Hacohen <t...@stosb.com> wrote:
> >
> >> As Mike said, the rebase/sync to master is being done locally before
> >> the merge. If you are talking about keeping this branch in sync with
> >> master constantly while developing, yes it's a problem. But I guess
> >> it's not intended for long term features.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz
> >> <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > I don't see a difference in the merge process? A feature branch
> should be
> >> > treated exactly the same as master; the only difference is that it's a
> >> > branch which people must specifically pull in order to use instead of
> >> being
> >> > master.
> >> >
> >> > When merging, you can either do a regular rebase/merge as in the git
> >> > practices documentation or you can choose to rebase/squash on the
> >> branched
> >> > commits prior to pushing the merge. There is no rewriting within the
> >> > branch, but you can still rewrite anything which has not been pushed
> to
> >> > master just prior to pushing it to master.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 9:00 PM Jean-Philippe André <
> j...@videolan.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hey,
> >> >>
> >> >> If we can't rewrite history on those branches (rebase and push -f),
> how
> >> >> should we proceed with the merge to/from master?
> >> >> Usually when we merge a branch to master, we rebase it on top of
> master
> >> >> first and then rebase. That's how our history remains linear and
> simple.
> >> >>
> >> >> What's the idea here? I wonder.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for implementing this btw,
> >> >>
> >> >> 2017-11-21 8:49 GMT+09:00 Tom Hacohen <t...@stosb.com>:
> >> >>
> >> >> > I'm not sure about jenkins, that's Stefan's role.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Anyhow, pushed the changes according to the wiki. Please consider
> >> >> > especially mentioning probies when you say "everyone can push to".
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Tom.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz
> >> >> > <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > > I've added all the necessary info to the documentation at
> >> >> > >
> >> >>
> >> https://www.enlightenment.org/contrib/devs/git-guide.md#
> Feature_Branches
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > If the jenkins concept is not possible then feel free to remove,
> but
> >> >> the
> >> >> > > rest should be in line with what we want.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 6:54 AM Tom Hacohen <t...@stosb.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> So what has been decided? What should I do? I need specs,
> >> preferably
> >> >> > >> already added to the git wiki page so there are docs for this
> >> thing.
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:57 PM, Carsten Haitzler <
> >> >> ras...@rasterman.com
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> wrote:
> >> >> > >> > On Wed, 08 Nov 2017 21:39:15 +0000 Mike Blumenkrantz
> >> >> > >> > <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> said:
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> >> Key points for the implementation:
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> * all commits send mails to the list
> >> >> > >> >> * no rewrite of pushed commits
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> Things to consider:
> >> >> > >> >> * how are feature/ branches deleted?
> >> >> > >> >>  - maybe anyone can delete?
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Good point. these need deletion. after a few years it'll be a
> >> mess
> >> >> of
> >> >> > old
> >> >> > >> > feature branches no one will ever look at again. The merge to
> >> master
> >> >> > >> should
> >> >> > >> > contain all the history and log that is needed at that point
> for
> >> >> > history
> >> >> > >> > digging.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> >> * do probies get feature/ push access?
> >> >> > >> >>  - seems like they should?
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:42 PM Tom Hacohen <t...@stosb.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> > Yeah, good idea.
> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> > I'll take a look into implementing it soon.
> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> > >> >> > On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Andrew Williams <
> >> >> > a...@andywilliams.me
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> > >> >> > > Hi,
> >> >> > >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> >> > > That sounds great - the ability to work together on
> features
> >> >> > >> off-master
> >> >> > >> >> > > would be really helpful.
> >> >> > >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> >> > > Andy
> >> >> > >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> >> > > On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 at 16:15, Mike Blumenkrantz <
> >> >> > >> >> > > michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> >> > >> After some discussions about git organization, it's
> become
> >> >> clear
> >> >> > >> to me
> >> >> > >> >> > that
> >> >> > >> >> > >> we should be trying to enact some changes which
> facilitate
> >> >> > >> >> > collaboration,
> >> >> > >> >> > >> both between existing contributors and keeping in mind
> >> future
> >> >> > >> >> > contributors.
> >> >> > >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> >> > >> The current git branch policy is this:
> >> >> > >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> >> > >> * master
> >> >> > >> >> > >> * $project-$version
> >> >> > >> >> > >> * devs/$name/$branchname
> >> >> > >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> >> > >> No others are allowed. This fits many use cases, but it
> >> does
> >> >> not
> >> >> > >> >> > actually
> >> >> > >> >> > >> help us work towards collaborating on features/patchsets
> >> and
> >> >> > >> instead
> >> >> > >> >> > >> promotes developing in isolation.
> >> >> > >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> >> > >> A simple proposal could improve this without requiring
> or
> >> >> > >> significantly
> >> >> > >> >> > >> changing our workflow: add "feature/" branches. For
> >> example,
> >> >> if
> >> >> > >> Cedric
> >> >> > >> >> > and
> >> >> > >> >> > >> I decide to work on a "feature" which scrapes the
> archive
> >> of
> >> >> > this
> >> >> > >> >> > mailing
> >> >> > >> >> > >> list and then crashes the session of anyone who replies
> to
> >> >> this
> >> >> > >> thread,
> >> >> > >> >> > we
> >> >> > >> >> > >> might jointly create a branch named
> >> >> "feature/discussion_helper"
> >> >> > >> and push
> >> >> > >> >> > >> commits to it.
> >> >> > >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> >> > >> A key point of this proposal would be that the feature/
> >> >> branches
> >> >> > >> must
> >> >> > >> >> > >> trigger mails to the mailing list just like stable
> >> branches.
> >> >> > This
> >> >> > >> would
> >> >> > >> >> > >> increase visibility for feature branches as well as
> promote
> >> >> > further
> >> >> > >> >> > >> collaboration even from those who are not directly
> >> involved in
> >> >> > >> creating
> >> >> > >> >> > the
> >> >> > >> >> > >> feature. The initial feature development could be done
> in a
> >> >> dev/
> >> >> > >> branch,
> >> >> > >> >> > >> and then it could later move to a feature/ branch once
> it
> >> has
> >> >> > >> >> > progressed to
> >> >> > >> >> > >> the point where it is ready for public visibility and
> >> >> increased
> >> >> > >> >> > >> collaboration.
> >> >> > >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> >> > >> Lastly, feature branches would not be required use, just
> >> >> > >> encouraged.
> >> >> > >> >> > This
> >> >> > >> >> > >> allows people to continue the current EFL standard of
> >> always
> >> >> > >> committing
> >> >> > >> >> > >> only to master without any prior testing or branching,
> the
> >> >> need
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > >> >> > which
> >> >> > >> >> > >> has defeated other proposals which would prevent such
> >> action.
> >> >> > >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> >> > >> I think this could yield significant improvements to the
> >> >> > >> community's
> >> >> > >> >> > >> overall workflow without massively changing the
> structure
> >> >> under
> >> >> > >> which
> >> >> > >> >> > the
> >> >> > >> >> > >> everyone has been functioning.
> >> >> > >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------
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> >> >> > >> >> > >>
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> >> >> > >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> >> > > --
> >> >> > >> >> > > http://andywilliams.me
> >> >> > >> >> > > http://ajwillia.ms
> >> >> > >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> >> >
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> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > --
> >> >> > >> > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am"
> >> >> > --------------
> >> >> > >> > Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com
> >> >> > >> >
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> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
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> >> >>
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