Can we instead ask people to pull master into their branch before asking
for review / merging it up to master? That’s pretty common practice - in
fact for a long lived branch I would expect that to happen on a regular
basis.

Andy
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 at 02:56, Jean-Philippe André <[email protected]> wrote:

> My problem is that those branches won't be in sync with master.
> This will lead to merge conflicts. I am these days reviewing a lot of work
> done in dev branches or phab patches and it almost never applies nicely on
> master, because the interfaces change.
> A lot of work is done in branches (model, c#, eo widgets, ...) and those
> tasks are both long term and involve more than a single dev. They require
> constant rebasing on master or the final rebase will be a nightmare. Right
> now this is done by people pulling other devs branches, and then rebasing
> onto master in their own dev branch.
>
> Rewriting history on a shared branch has major downsides too. No problem
> for dev branches as there's only one committer, but anyone pulling a
> rewritten history will endure pain.
>
> Honestly I don't have a solution.
>
> It's a move in the right direction, but I'm not sure it's solving the
> problems I'm facing :(
>
>
>
> 2017-11-22 3:43 GMT+09:00 Tom Hacohen <[email protected]>:
>
> > Only problem would be the commit emails being resent (because
> > technically they are new commits). One can mitigate that by first
> > pushing them to a dev branch. Commits there have first been there
> > don't trigger emails.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 6:40 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > In the issue where a significant rebase against master is necessary
> then
> > > it's trivial enough to either push to a new feature branch or delete
> and
> > > re-create the existing branch.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 1:36 PM Tom Hacohen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> As Mike said, the rebase/sync to master is being done locally before
> > >> the merge. If you are talking about keeping this branch in sync with
> > >> master constantly while developing, yes it's a problem. But I guess
> > >> it's not intended for long term features.
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz
> > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> > I don't see a difference in the merge process? A feature branch
> > should be
> > >> > treated exactly the same as master; the only difference is that
> it's a
> > >> > branch which people must specifically pull in order to use instead
> of
> > >> being
> > >> > master.
> > >> >
> > >> > When merging, you can either do a regular rebase/merge as in the git
> > >> > practices documentation or you can choose to rebase/squash on the
> > >> branched
> > >> > commits prior to pushing the merge. There is no rewriting within the
> > >> > branch, but you can still rewrite anything which has not been pushed
> > to
> > >> > master just prior to pushing it to master.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 9:00 PM Jean-Philippe André <
> > [email protected]>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Hey,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> If we can't rewrite history on those branches (rebase and push -f),
> > how
> > >> >> should we proceed with the merge to/from master?
> > >> >> Usually when we merge a branch to master, we rebase it on top of
> > master
> > >> >> first and then rebase. That's how our history remains linear and
> > simple.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> What's the idea here? I wonder.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Thanks for implementing this btw,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> 2017-11-21 8:49 GMT+09:00 Tom Hacohen <[email protected]>:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > I'm not sure about jenkins, that's Stefan's role.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Anyhow, pushed the changes according to the wiki. Please consider
> > >> >> > especially mentioning probies when you say "everyone can push
> to".
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > --
> > >> >> > Tom.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz
> > >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >> > > I've added all the necessary info to the documentation at
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >>
> > >> https://www.enlightenment.org/contrib/devs/git-guide.md#
> > Feature_Branches
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > If the jenkins concept is not possible then feel free to
> remove,
> > but
> > >> >> the
> > >> >> > > rest should be in line with what we want.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 6:54 AM Tom Hacohen <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >> So what has been decided? What should I do? I need specs,
> > >> preferably
> > >> >> > >> already added to the git wiki page so there are docs for this
> > >> thing.
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:57 PM, Carsten Haitzler <
> > >> >> [email protected]
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >> wrote:
> > >> >> > >> > On Wed, 08 Nov 2017 21:39:15 +0000 Mike Blumenkrantz
> > >> >> > >> > <[email protected]> said:
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> >> Key points for the implementation:
> > >> >> > >> >>
> > >> >> > >> >> * all commits send mails to the list
> > >> >> > >> >> * no rewrite of pushed commits
> > >> >> > >> >>
> > >> >> > >> >> Things to consider:
> > >> >> > >> >> * how are feature/ branches deleted?
> > >> >> > >> >>  - maybe anyone can delete?
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Good point. these need deletion. after a few years it'll be
> a
> > >> mess
> > >> >> of
> > >> >> > old
> > >> >> > >> > feature branches no one will ever look at again. The merge
> to
> > >> master
> > >> >> > >> should
> > >> >> > >> > contain all the history and log that is needed at that point
> > for
> > >> >> > history
> > >> >> > >> > digging.
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> >> * do probies get feature/ push access?
> > >> >> > >> >>  - seems like they should?
> > >> >> > >> >>
> > >> >> > >> >> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:42 PM Tom Hacohen <[email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >> > >> >>
> > >> >> > >> >> > Yeah, good idea.
> > >> >> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > >> >> > I'll take a look into implementing it soon.
> > >> >> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > >> >> > On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Andrew Williams <
> > >> >> > [email protected]
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> >> > wrote:
> > >> >> > >> >> > > Hi,
> > >> >> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >> >> > > That sounds great - the ability to work together on
> > features
> > >> >> > >> off-master
> > >> >> > >> >> > > would be really helpful.
> > >> >> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >> >> > > Andy
> > >> >> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >> >> > > On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 at 16:15, Mike Blumenkrantz <
> > >> >> > >> >> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> After some discussions about git organization, it's
> > become
> > >> >> clear
> > >> >> > >> to me
> > >> >> > >> >> > that
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> we should be trying to enact some changes which
> > facilitate
> > >> >> > >> >> > collaboration,
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> both between existing contributors and keeping in mind
> > >> future
> > >> >> > >> >> > contributors.
> > >> >> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> The current git branch policy is this:
> > >> >> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> * master
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> * $project-$version
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> * devs/$name/$branchname
> > >> >> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> No others are allowed. This fits many use cases, but
> it
> > >> does
> > >> >> not
> > >> >> > >> >> > actually
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> help us work towards collaborating on
> features/patchsets
> > >> and
> > >> >> > >> instead
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> promotes developing in isolation.
> > >> >> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> A simple proposal could improve this without requiring
> > or
> > >> >> > >> significantly
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> changing our workflow: add "feature/" branches. For
> > >> example,
> > >> >> if
> > >> >> > >> Cedric
> > >> >> > >> >> > and
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> I decide to work on a "feature" which scrapes the
> > archive
> > >> of
> > >> >> > this
> > >> >> > >> >> > mailing
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> list and then crashes the session of anyone who
> replies
> > to
> > >> >> this
> > >> >> > >> thread,
> > >> >> > >> >> > we
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> might jointly create a branch named
> > >> >> "feature/discussion_helper"
> > >> >> > >> and push
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> commits to it.
> > >> >> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> A key point of this proposal would be that the
> feature/
> > >> >> branches
> > >> >> > >> must
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> trigger mails to the mailing list just like stable
> > >> branches.
> > >> >> > This
> > >> >> > >> would
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> increase visibility for feature branches as well as
> > promote
> > >> >> > further
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> collaboration even from those who are not directly
> > >> involved in
> > >> >> > >> creating
> > >> >> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> feature. The initial feature development could be done
> > in a
> > >> >> dev/
> > >> >> > >> branch,
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> and then it could later move to a feature/ branch once
> > it
> > >> has
> > >> >> > >> >> > progressed to
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> the point where it is ready for public visibility and
> > >> >> increased
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> collaboration.
> > >> >> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Lastly, feature branches would not be required use,
> just
> > >> >> > >> encouraged.
> > >> >> > >> >> > This
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> allows people to continue the current EFL standard of
> > >> always
> > >> >> > >> committing
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> only to master without any prior testing or branching,
> > the
> > >> >> need
> > >> >> > for
> > >> >> > >> >> > which
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> has defeated other proposals which would prevent such
> > >> action.
> > >> >> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> I think this could yield significant improvements to
> the
> > >> >> > >> community's
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> overall workflow without massively changing the
> > structure
> > >> >> under
> > >> >> > >> which
> > >> >> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> everyone has been functioning.
> > >> >> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >> >> > >> >> > >>
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> > >> >> > devel
> > >> >> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >> >> > > --
> > >> >> > >> >> > > http://andywilliams.me
> > >> >> > >> >> > > http://ajwillia.ms
> > >> >> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >> >> >
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> > >> >> > >> >> >
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> > >> >> > >> >>
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > --
> > >> >> > >> > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am"
> > >> >> > --------------
> > >> >> > >> > Carsten Haitzler - [email protected]
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> >
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> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> Jean-Philippe André
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
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