On Sun, 24 Dec 2017 22:41:20 +0000 Andrew Williams <[email protected]> said:
> You're quit right that document is really more of a checklist. Which now I > look more closely is exactly what they called it too. > Their roadmap document is actually > https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GTK+/Roadmap . > > Anyhow for clarity what I feel we are missing in our "roadmap" is: > > * What are we aiming for > * What are the milestones along the way > * What is the scope of the project and milestones > * (Ideally) At what stage is it ready for external feedback etc > > Whilst presentation matters to an extent I don't think it has to be a table > or wiki page - though they are typically much easier to read as a quick > summary. > > As you can see from the list above it is, in my mind, a document that > covers far more than is currently documented in our tickets > Whilst I would be happy to write and maintain such a document I am > concerned about the significant risk of it not matching your desires or > expectations. I'd be concerned with the work put into it and then the bitrot when you stop maintaining it actively. Hear me out on this. History has taught me a painful lesson. People come and people go. when people go what they leave behind is put on the shoulders of those left. If there is a parallel document to the actual tickets then it's going to bitrot as frankly I've found int he past it ends up me picking up the pieces, if I do, and if I don't it rots and dies and eventually I kill it off. If you can AUTOMATE something to give the PRESENTATION you want ... now we're beginning to come together on this. If it's the presentation as a single "wiki page and a table" you want... then that is a different manner and having this automated is the right choice. > As the community leader it is something that I thought you could pull > together but I don't know who else can speak for the community effort. See above. I am generally loathe to jump into things I smell will be a lot of manual work. Because of the above. Indeed if you want a nicer "everything on one page flattened out" presentation of the same core data... now we're talking something positive I think. The question is... how? arc (arcanist) at least has the nuts and bolts to query phab for tickets. it doesn't have enough options to say "list this ticket's children" for example. or to extract full body description, or just title, perhaps it may require trawling phab's mysql db manually with a script? or perhaps just some php extension/tool/"phab app" that can display tickets in the way you want? if this can be done... then we have a "single source" of the data and if it's being presented publicly as a "public face of direction and status" then perhaps it'd lead to more desire to fill it out because it's no longer just between the core devs who have an "understanding" of what things like "EO: main loop" really entails... :) > Just my thoughts, > Andy > > On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 at 10:57 Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 17:56:54 +0100 Vincent Torri <[email protected]> > > said: > > > > > hello > > > > > > i've recently seen this gtk roadmap : > > > https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GTK%2B/Roadmap/GTK4 > > > > > > is there the same for EFL ? > > > > https://phab.enlightenment.org/T5301 > > > > specifically for eo/interfaces. > > > > there's parallel work for wayland. that's about it for major work going on. > > > > > Vincent > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > _______________________________________________ > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > > -- > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > > Carsten Haitzler - [email protected] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > _______________________________________________ > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > -- > http://andywilliams.me > http://ajwillia.ms > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- Carsten Haitzler - [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
