I don't think anyone thinks that. Maybe we're looking at the "bigger" picture too much (the big goal), This whole interfaces work has been a long slog for most people involved. I think overall things are improving.
It seems simple advice, just have to keep going. On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:55 PM, Stephen Houston <smhousto...@gmail.com> wrote: > If the take away anyone gets from this is that everyone hates raster or > raster should quit, then you are missing the point. > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:48 PM Vincent Torri <vincent.to...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I am very sad about how behaviors are these days. >> >> But i would like to recall that, whatever you think about raster, >> whatever has been said behind the scene, he is the one who started >> everything, the EFL and E. >> >> Vincent >> >> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:01 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. >> <wlt...@obsidian-studios.com> wrote: >> > Carsten, >> > >> > On Fri, 1 Jun 2018 00:24:24 +0900 >> > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: >> > >> >> i'm ->||<- that close to quitting this e/efl myself. >> > >> > Never do that!!!! >> > >> >> what i have seen over the past few months is "bugger off raster - we >> >> don't want you". i'm sorely tempted to make you happy. it'll make me >> >> oh so much less stressed. i'm going to be away for about 2 weeks... i >> >> vaguely feel like not coming back given the kind of behaviour that is >> >> "let's make stuff up to make him look bad and while i'm at it call >> >> him a despot". >> > >> > This seems quite similar to when Gentoo community got Daniel Robbins to >> > give up his BDFL over Gentoo Technologies, Inc.. Then creating the >> > absolute mess that is Gentoo Foundation. Inc. Which of course Daniel >> > Robbins left and people were happy without him... FAIL!!!! >> > >> > Things have only gotten worse!!!! Let Daniel Robbins and Gentoo be an >> > example for Carsten and E/EFL. Please do not make that mistake again!!! >> > >> > I have never met Daniel. I do not condone all his conducts, or support >> > all his ideas. That is not my place. But I respect what he started and >> > did. No matter who has done more since. For all the respect shown to >> > Cedric for his work. Same should go to Carsten for starting this >> > project, and continuing to participate. Many start something and bail. >> > >> > Any one individual or group can always move on. Some have already like >> > Bohdi Linux. If you don't like Carsten etc, you always have the choice >> > of fork etc. Re-create what he started. That stuff is not trivial!!! >> > >> > I also have my own issues with Carsten, as I am sure he does with me. I >> > just look past that stuff. It is life... >> > >> > I am shocked no one has ever had a boss, teacher, or someone above them >> > they disliked. I guess they quit or something... >> > >> > -- >> > William L. Thomson Jr. >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> > _______________________________________________ >> > enlightenment-devel mailing list >> > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> _______________________________________________ >> enlightenment-devel mailing list >> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
