On Thursday 31 May 2018  21:35, Vincent Torri wrote :
> I am very sad about how behaviors are these days.
> 
> But i would like to recall that, whatever you think about raster,
> whatever has been said behind the scene, he is the one who started
> everything, the EFL and E.
> 
> Vincent

You worded my thouths,
it seems to me that everybody is releasing it's own personal frustration ...
for no one's benefit.

> 
> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:01 PM, William L. Thomson Jr.
> <wlt...@obsidian-studios.com> wrote:
> > Carsten,
> >
> > On Fri, 1 Jun 2018 00:24:24 +0900
> > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
> >
> >> i'm ->||<- that close to quitting this e/efl myself.
> >
> > Never do that!!!!
> >
> >> what i have seen over the past few months is "bugger off raster - we
> >> don't want you". i'm sorely tempted to make you happy. it'll make me
> >> oh so much less stressed. i'm going to be away for about 2 weeks... i
> >> vaguely feel like not coming back given the kind of behaviour that is
> >> "let's make stuff up to make him look bad and while i'm at it call
> >> him a despot".
> >
> > This seems quite similar to when Gentoo community got Daniel Robbins to
> > give up his BDFL over Gentoo Technologies, Inc.. Then creating the
> > absolute mess that is Gentoo Foundation. Inc. Which of course Daniel
> > Robbins left and people were happy without him... FAIL!!!!
> >
> > Things have only gotten worse!!!! Let Daniel Robbins and Gentoo be an
> > example for Carsten and E/EFL. Please do not make that mistake again!!!
> >
> > I have never met Daniel. I do not condone all his conducts, or support
> > all his ideas. That is not my place. But I respect what he started and
> > did. No matter who has done more since. For all the respect shown to
> > Cedric for his work. Same should go to Carsten for starting this
> > project, and continuing to participate. Many start something and bail.
> >
> > Any one individual or group can always move on. Some have already like
> > Bohdi Linux. If you don't like Carsten etc, you always have the choice
> > of fork etc. Re-create what he started. That stuff is not trivial!!!
> >
> > I also have my own issues with Carsten, as I am sure he does with me. I
> > just look past that stuff. It is life...
> >
> > I am shocked no one has ever had a boss, teacher, or someone above them
> > they disliked. I guess they quit or something...
> >
> > --
> > William L. Thomson Jr.
> >
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